But let's not forget sl+flash are all About tomorrow :) Cheers,
Jordan. On 01/11/2010, at 7:17 PM, "Shane Morris (Automatic Studio)" <[email protected]> wrote: > To my mind all this noise re Silverlight v HTML5 does not really affect the > Silverlight v Flash argument. The reasons to choose Flash or Silvelright are > pretty much the same today as they were last week. The only change is a > slight dip in confidence in MS's commitment to further innovation going > forward, I guess. But for an organisation that made its platform decision > based on what exists today rather than what might be coming, I feel like > nothing much has changed? > > > > Shane > > > > From: [email protected] > [[email protected]] on behalf of Grant Maw > [[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, 2 November 2010 11:19 AM > To: ozSilverlight > Subject: Re: Bob Muglias & Steve Balmers statements on committment to > Silverlight > > And there'll be a lot more like Barry if this isn't dealt with quickly, and > with finality. > > We have a client who has invested heavily in a SL app at our recommendation. > It took us a very long time to convince them that SL was the right tool for > the job, and even after all that we are still getting the "why didn't we use > Flash" argument flaring up from time to time. This latest development has the > potential to make us look pretty darned foolish when our customers get wind > of it. > > I believed at the outset that we made the right call, and I still do, but > now, just as SL is getting wider acceptance, things like this happen and as a > result we are going to have to go through all the old arguments once again > with a new app that is proposed for next year. > > We have invested heavily in SL, and so have our customers, on the premise > that the platform would be around for the long haul. Statements like > Muglia's, followed further by a "clarification" that is more spin than > substance, and a meaningless statement from Ballmer do very little to put the > cat back into the bag. Hard facts, and more detail about future development > of the product (and it's tooling) over the next 5 years would go a long way > to restoring confidence. > > On 2 November 2010 09:18, Barry Beattie <[email protected]> wrote: > I think it's at this stage that I will unsubscribe from this list and give up > on Silverlight for the moment as "irrelivant", perhaps checking back later. > > I was hoping SL would be able to produce worthwhile interfaces to the clunky > rubbish found in products like Dynamics CRM but I just can't see the buy-in > from that division to do much with SL and those products. > > Bye all. Have fun. > > Barry Beattie > > > > > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Chris Anderson <[email protected]> > wrote: > It's amusing to see how many times Steve Balmer name dropped 'Silverlight' in > his post :). Backpedalling ahoy! > > My concern from the beginning has specifically been with the phrase “Our > Silverlight strategy and focus going forward has shifted". Bob says that's > not a negative statement in his post, but I disagree. Microsoft "shifted" > their strategy away from Windows Mobile, and look what happened with it - > practically nothing for years. After Microsoft released IE6 their strategy > "shifted" - again work on that product halted for years. It wasn't like > either of them were perfect, and couldn't have done with more work! > > It was easier to brush off Scott Barnes' tweets as those of an ex-softie that > *might not* have the current full picture and strategic insight of Microsoft, > but harder when the controversy stems from the current president of the > Server and Tools division. You could say that it was simply a bad choice of > words, but added to Scott Barnes' tips starts painting a bad picture for > Silverlight's future. Stating that their strategy has shifted sends the > wrong message to CTOs, and creates the PR nightmare we are all faced with now. > > Personally, I still have faith in Silverlight and its potential (both current > and future), and evidence showed that Microsoft shares it too (LightSwitch, > Windows Phone 7, etc). I just hope that Microsoft continues to see that > potential through before chucking it on the backburner, and doesn't abuse > that faith. Currently they have a rather demoralised community, and it's > going to take a lot to prop it back up. Because those of us promoting > Silverlight will have a lot more work to do to now promoting the platform. > > If one good thing comes from this controversy, it is that the community has > spoken, and it will *not* be happy with a shift in strategy. Maybe, just > maybe, that will impact positively internally at Microsoft. > > Chris > > > > On 2 November 2010 07:19, Winston Pang <[email protected]> wrote: > Man do you ever sleep? Haha you seem to operate in US time. > > Bobs post seems to be getting some interesting replies... > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 02/11/2010, at 5:28 AM, Jose Fajardo <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Here's Microsoft's official statements >> >> >> Bob Muglia has posted extensively on the Silverlight Team Blog: >> http://team.silverlight.net >> >> >> Steve Ballmer has also commented on his PDC blog: >> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/nov10/11-01Statement.mspx >> >> >> >> .... either believe them or not completely up to you guys! >> >> >> Note: The information contained in this message and any attachment to it is >> privileged, confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of >> this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent >> responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are >> hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this >> communication is strictly prohibited. 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