Sorry for my previous half finished message. Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to translate some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and linguistic differences of the Greek language with English I might not be able to convey it properly (I am not a trained translator)
"Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" > The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter of the commons personally and in public is the following. I would like to, conclude with the permission of the President, with a > general thought. Often in everyday life we all live events happening that > only hindsight their importance. We live, then, and now a historic era, > characterized not only by the crisis and the collapse of obsolete models, > but we live a crisis that eventually spawned new models and new social > organization models, as was done in the past. In this sense, then, this is > an opportunity to take up the deficits of the past, to close this > modernization deficit, but by addressing the contemporary social problem of > unemployment, social security and social exclusion. This could establish a > new paradigm in Greece and other countries of southern Europe, combining > advanced forms of democracy, social self-motivation, social justice on a > strong foundation of *common goods*, a society-centric model, which would > give dignity and confidence in society hope to the people, optimism in the > new generation. Thus, Greece from being the Guenna-pig of austerity and > destruction could be the a ground of pioneering ideas and policies, and the > benefit would not be just for us. The world would become a security goal in > a region of insecurity and "aged" Europe could re-discover through the > symbiosis of different development models inside. Let's not rush some say > that these are utopias, because there are utopias that are realistic. Are > those whose implementation depends not on supernatural powers, but by the > unity and collective action of ordinary people in Europe, in Greece and > worldwide. Thank you. > > Greek speakers could find the original here. http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041 I hope this could help a bit on the conversation. On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to translate > some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and linguistic > differences of the Greek language with English I might not be able to > convey it properly (I am not a trained translator) > > "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" > > The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a commons > based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter of the > commons. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM, P2P Foundation mailing list < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> understood Vasilis, >> >> but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, and >> that the real transformative work is put on hold for when conditions are >> right .. >> >> so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on the >> crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer term >> change, >> >> Michel >> >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Michel, >>> >>> The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find >>> anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference. >>> However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was what the >>> vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George Papanikolaou's >>> reaction in relation to my message, in which he highlights that >>> Dragasakis's basic idea was that "the european south can open the way to >>> new productive relations". In addition to this, George emphasizes that "the >>> priority now is to stabilize the situation and give us time for >>> experimentation". >>> >>> Let's see... >>> >>> v. >>> >>> On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> This is very important news: >>>> >>>> perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? especially >>>> in english ? >>>> >>>> see: >>>> >>>> " Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his >>>> speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new bottom-up, >>>> Commons-based productive models which will have a global orientation and >>>> will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable development." >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >>>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >>>> >>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>>> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>> >>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Vasilis Kostakis >>> >>> Senior Research Fellow >>> Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance >>> >>> Research Director >>> P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >> >> > > > -- > http://elkosmas.gr > -- http://elkosmas.gr
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