i'm not aware of movements, but these are interesting initiatives, http://p2pfoundation.net/Proof_Of_Concept_21
http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Circular_Economy On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Ellen Friedman <[email protected]> wrote: > The movement of movements clearly is beginning to coalesce. In the US, > widespread networks in the climate movement are beginning to organize > together and are connecting with other movements like #BlackLivesMatter. It > looks like we’ll use cop15 Paris as a target date for a climax to a cascade > of actions. Another prime opportunity this year for the commons movement is > to connect with the climate movement. Is anyone organizing to treat climate > change as a commons problem? I heard about the Sky Trust idea years ago, > but I’m not aware of any current efforts to connect climate justice with > the commons. > > Ellen > > > On Feb 12, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Orsan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > this sounds very good and what is needed indeed. In case there is a call > from Greek commoners, May would become a spring for the commons in Greece > and beyond! Just replied to Vasilis and Michel saying that ECB action in > March, and WSF in Tunis will be key spaces to converge further, as wide > forces as possible, to give full support to Greece, and Kobane, then will > Spain join in, with Podemos it seems, g20 istanbul and cop15 Paris would be > movement spaces to converge further. > > This seems like a once in a life time moment to build the fellowship of > the commons and turn the tide, towards 2016 and 2017! > > Orsan > > On 12 feb. 2015, at 20:11, George Pór <[email protected]> wrote: > > How about international commoner brigades > to support whatever is needed > for the peer-to-peer renewal of the Greek economy and society? > > That could be our response to the attempt of the international capital to > squeeze the life out from an alternative to its reign... > > george > > George Pór > Fellow, Future Considerations > Founder of CommunityIntelligence Ltd. > Visiting Professor, Management Center Innsbruck > > researcher in collective intelligence and wisdom > evolutionary thinker, social architect, and integral mentor > <http://community-intelligence.com/integral-mentoring/> > to leaders and changemakers in business, government, and civil society > > Skype: georgepor > LinkedIn: uk.linkedin.com/in/georgepor > Twitter: @Technoshaman > Web: http://futureconsiderations.com/who/team/core/george/ > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 7:04 PM, Mark Jagdev <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think many would back a campaign to make this happen. I would donate >> and we all know others that would also. >> Mark >> ------------------------------ >> From: Örsan Şenalp <[email protected]> >> Sent: 12/02/2015 16:54 >> To: Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>; Roberto Verzola >> <[email protected]> >> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <[email protected]>; >> [email protected]; p2p-foundation >> <[email protected]>; Commoning >> <[email protected]>; Eleftherios Kosmas >> <[email protected]>; George Papanikolaou <[email protected]>; Commoning >> List <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [commoning] [Commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President >> explicitelyendorses commons strategy before parliament >> >> This is the high time for forming the rapid deployment force. Can't we >> call all pool rapid funds, coop-funding, crowdfunding, self-funding... >> so on to make this happen. If not now, when? >> >> Orsan >> >> Michel Bauwens schreef op 12-2-2015 om 17:45: >> > there are no plans nor funding for a new big commons conference ... >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Roberto Verzola <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Perhaps, the next intl conference on the commons should be held in >> >> Greece... >> >> >> >> Roberto Verzola >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 00:52:05 -0700 >> >> "Wolfgang Hoeschele" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Dear Friends, >> >>> >> >>> Very interesting discussion! >> >>> >> >>> I wonder is there opportunity (or need) to promote commons or p2p >> >>> concepts directly with the Greek government? How much are they in >> >>> touch with these movements in Greece and internationally? Can it be >> >>> useful to them if networking with us shows EU negotiators that 1) >> >>> there are proponents of a new approach around Europe and elsewhere >> >>> (i.e., Syriza is not alone in searching for new alternatives that >> >>> break the "grow like mad or die" alternative?), and 2) there are >> >>> actual models that can be implemented and there are people both >> >>> inside and outside Greece who can help make it possible? >> >>> >> >>> It seems to me that there is very little time available for the Greek >> >>> negotiators to achieve a breakthrough and thereby allow space for new >> >>> approaches to flourish in Greece, or else to fail, leading to a >> >>> resumption of austerity policies (with, I fear, disastrous results >> >>> for Greek politics, because I have no idea to whom Greek voters would >> >>> then turn). So, if we can do something internationally to help in >> >>> this process, it might be very important to do so now. Since there >> >>> are Greek participants in this list, I would very much like to hear >> >>> from you what you think about this. >> >>> >> >>> By the way, personally this also interests me because as a teenager, >> >>> when my father was working in Athens, I lived there - so there is >> >>> that personal connection! >> >>> >> >>> Best wishes, >> >>> Wolfgang >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >> >>> Subject: Re: [commoning] [P2P-F] Greek Vice-President explicitely >> >>> endorses commons strategy before parliament >> >>> From: George Papanikolaou <[email protected]> >> >>> Date: Wed, February 11, 2015 10:09 pm >> >>> To: Eleftherios Kosmas <[email protected]> >> >>> Cc: Vasilis Kostakis <[email protected]>, >> >>> [email protected], Commoning >> >>> <[email protected]>, >> >>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, >> >>> Commoning List <[email protected]> >> >>> >> >>> Eleftherios thank you for the translation. >> >>> Knowing Greek politics and considering that Dragasakis is the nr 2 >> >>> (not to say nr 1) in the Greek government, I think this is an >> >>> important statement. It shows profound thinking and his openness to >> >>> the commons ideas. >> >>> >> >>> Best regards >> >>> George >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:51 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: Sorry for my previous half finished >> >>> message. >> >>> >> >>> Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr Dragasakis I will try to >> >>> translate some parts of it. Bear in mind that due to the cultural and >> >>> linguistic differences of the Greek language with English I might not >> >>> be able to convey it properly (I am not a trained translator) >> >>> >> >>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >> >>> >> >>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >> >>> commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >> >>> of the commons personally and in public is the following. >> >>> >> >>> I would like to, conclude with the permission of the President, with >> >>> a general thought. Often in everyday life we all live events >> >>> happening that only hindsight their importance. We live, then, and >> >>> now a historic era, characterized not only by the crisis and the >> >>> collapse of obsolete models, but we live a crisis that eventually >> >>> spawned new models and new social organization models, as was done in >> >>> the past. In this sense, then, this is an opportunity to take up the >> >>> deficits of the past, to close this modernization deficit, but by >> >>> addressing the contemporary social problem of unemployment, social >> >>> security and social exclusion. This could establish a new paradigm in >> >>> Greece and other countries of southern Europe, combining advanced >> >>> forms of democracy, social self-motivation, social justice on a >> >>> strong foundation of common goods, a society-centric model, which >> >>> would give dignity and confidence in society hope to the people, >> >>> optimism in the new generation. Thus, Greece from being the >> >>> Guenna-pig of austerity and destruction could be the a ground of >> >>> pioneering ideas and policies, and the benefit would not be just for >> >>> us. The world would become a security goal in a region of insecurity >> >>> and "aged" Europe could re-discover through the symbiosis of >> >>> different development models inside. Let's not rush some say that >> >>> these are utopias, because there are utopias that are realistic. Are >> >>> those whose implementation depends not on supernatural powers, but by >> >>> the unity and collective action of ordinary people in Europe, in >> >>> Greece and worldwide. Thank you. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Greek speakers could find the original here. >> >>> >> >>> http://www.dragasakis.gr/omiliesparembaseis.php?id=1041 >> >>> >> >>> I hope this could help a bit on the conversation. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Eleftherios Kosmas >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: Hi guys. I checked the speech of Mr >> >>> Dragasakis I will try to translate some parts of it. Bear in mind >> >>> that due to the cultural and linguistic differences of the Greek >> >>> language with English I might not be able to convey it properly (I am >> >>> not a trained translator) >> >>> >> >>> "Title: Speech during the government's policy statements" >> >>> >> >>> The most interesting part at least for my shelf as a member of a >> >>> commons based collective like hackerspace.gr and a strong supporter >> >>> of the commons. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:50 PM, P2P Foundation mailing list >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: understood Vasilis, >> >>> >> >>> but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, >> >>> and that the real transformative work is put on hold for when >> >>> conditions are right .. >> >>> >> >>> so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on >> >>> the crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer >> >>> term change, >> >>> >> >>> Michel >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: Michel, >> >>> >> >>> The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find >> >>> anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference. >> >>> However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was >> >>> what the vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George >> >>> Papanikolaou's reaction in relation to my message, in which he >> >>> highlights that Dragasakis's basic idea was that "the european south >> >>> can open the way to new productive relations". In addition to this, >> >>> George emphasizes that "the priority now is to stabilize the >> >>> situation and give us time for experimentation". >> >>> >> >>> Let's see... >> >>> >> >>> v. >> >>> >> >>> On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: This is very important news: >> >>> >> >>> perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? >> >>> especially in english ? >> >>> >> >>> see: >> >>> >> >>> " Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his >> >>> speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new >> >>> bottom-up, Commons-based productive models which will have a global >> >>> orientation and will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable >> >>> development." >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> >>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> >>> >> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> >> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >>> >> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Dr. Vasilis Kostakis >> >>> >> >>> Senior Research Fellow >> >>> Ragnar Nurkse School of Innovation and Governance >> >>> >> >>> Research Director >> >>> P2P Lab: http://p2plab.org >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >> >>> http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan >> >>> >> >>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >> >>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> >> >>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; >> http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >>> >> >>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> P2P Foundation - Mailing list >> >>> http://www.p2pfoundation.net >> >>> https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> http://elkosmas.gr >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> http://elkosmas.gr >> >>> >> >>> ------------------------------------------------ >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Commoning mailing list >> >>> Commons-Institut e.V. 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