If the webserver has adequate bandwidth I agree; I was assuming there were a
bunch of underpowered or bandwidth-throttling webservers in use.

Incidentally, does anyone use any of the download managers out there?  Out
of curiosity I installed wxDownloadFast and did some cursory testing, but it
seemed to download files *50% slower* than FireFox.

Basically, it took a single big file, split it up into 5 ranges, and then
downloaded those in parallel.  But presumably due to the TCP competition
issues Matthew mentioned, it was far faster to just do it all with a single
request.

I see reports that these download managers get massive installs -- FlashGot
is like the #3 FireFox extension, and it only works if you already have
*another* download manager installed; by itself it does nothing.

Furthermore, most of the features are variants on "download all the links on
this page", which I'm struggling to find a use for.  Perhaps it's useful to
download from the occasional open file share, but I don't see why this is so


Can anyone explain what the draw of these products/features?  I can only
guess it somehow helps a lot of people get porn or warez, but I'm not seeing
it.

-david

> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> David Barrett wrote:
> > Wow, very interesting.  I can see the value of downloading in parallel
> from
> > multiple mirrors...
> I can't. Assuming they're all servers with public IP addresses and
> reasonable outbound bandwidth, having each client load-balanced to a
> single specific server and downloading over a single TCP stream is more
> efficient for the network -- and provides better download performance
> for the user -- than having multiple TCP streams fight over the same
> congestion-limited download pipe.
> 
> The only reason to download from multiple sources simultaneously is the
> case where upstream capacity of serving nodes is a small fraction of
> downstream capacity (see: P2P filesharing network where the files are
> only present on ADSL or cable modem connected user machines), and thus
> there'd be no way to fill the download pipe otherwise.
> 
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