Proclaiming that 'p2p is pratcially [sic] dead' is another conflation
of p2p with infringement.  P2P is nothing more than than a
manifestation of a latent characteristic of TCP/IP, i.e., TCP/IP
interactions are not exclusive to client/server but it is rather one
of many potential methodologies.  P2P will be dead when TCP/IP dies.
We are migrating to a day when my fridge is talking to my microwave
oven who is telling my stove that the recipe from recipe.com calls for
the potatoes it is boiling to be nuked for 20 seconds before being
chopped and decorated for my eventual (since I'm vegetarian :) )
tofurkey meal, and there you have the real power and promise of
P2P/TCP/IP on display.

So let's stop saying P2P is dead, and instead say that post-Grokster a
business model based on copyright infringement is dead (though it can
be argued that Apple's iPod is just that, and it is doing fine, thank
you very much).

Thanks!
Susheel

On 1/7/07, Lemon Obrien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> BitTorrent has certainly changed things for the better overall.
I don't think BiTorrent has done anything good other than let people who
steal; steal faster. p2p is pratcially dead; and I think BitTorrent is the
problem...its basically a do-nothing, mentioned-in-wired, Bram is awesome
cause he has asberger's, divide up the file and ship, open-source download
tool.

That is the greatest achievement in p2p since, say 2000. With Tamago, at
least we're trying to create an industry out of it...p2p,
desktop-to-desktop, commerce.

I don't get why download speed is a big-deal; youTube proves fat-pipe is
better than code.

anyway. guess I had to rant.
lemon
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