(Emailing people directly because I'm not allowed to post to the list and the list server is down anyway)
It seems I should pay more attention to the p2p-hackers list! Dealing with a whole hosts of posts in one: * I never claimed that the IETF rejected anything, my slightly fuzzy wording was that they "wouldn't go for it". This is, indeed, the TCPM working group rather than the IETF as a whole which I omittied for clarity. There wasn't a vote but it was pretty clear that several people were against one specific point. * I don't believe there are any current objections about the actually cryptography. Eric Rescorla had some comments, but then I pointed out that his suggested scheme was isomorphic to what I was proposing anyway. Also, TCPM wasn't commenting on the higher level aspects. * I don't wish any animosity towards TCPM. Several people there had a differing opinion. It's not an unreasonable opinion given that I can't release any information on latency effects. I might write a paper on it, which will then be rejected by my employer's publication queue for confidentiality reasons. At least I will have tried. I intend to happily continue working with the TCPM WG on other things, such as TCP-AO. * The point of Obfuscated TCP was, indeed, to encrypt HTTP (and anything else) in a low cost manner. So low that it could be enabled by default, with no administration required. * The specific point that several members of TCPM were unconvinced of was a the additional of a bit from the application layer, carried in the SYN frame. This is a violation of the usual layering and they didn't believe I had provided sufficient justification. Almost by definition I disagree, but it was an informed position. * I'm not giving up, although things get very much less clean. My plans are too inchoate to bring up here however. Anyone is welcome to email me to discuss it. Cheers All, AGL -- Adam Langley [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.imperialviolet.org _______________________________________________ p2p-hackers mailing list [email protected] http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers
