I just want to correct one error below -- my offer is to put the page
up at P2PSIP.org, not at SIPeerior. P2PSIP.org is a community site,
not a company site. I have worked very hard from day one to make sure
that work from all folks was included there, even before we had any
IETF page we could use to put information up on as a community.

While I will now be listing our implementation there as a commercial
implementation along with the open source efforts as a result of this
discussion, to present, there hasn't even been a link to SIPeerior
from P2PSIP.org (although the name obviously appears in some drafts),
explicitly to ensure it was a community site.

David (as an individual and representing P2PSIP.org)

On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Henry Sinnreich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dan,
>
>  > Can we not get a wiki page set up for the P2PSIP working group
>
>  As has been pointed out by Lars Eggert, the IETF has a wiki for the RAI area:
>
>  http://www3.tools.ietf.org/area/rai/trac/wiki
>
>  The generous offer to use the SIPeerio web site is also very good.
>  Why not use both, since wiki's and web sites are really complementary.
>
>  I suggest the contributors that have links to post should start by posting 
> the links to the wiki, so we have them all in one place. The first 
> contributor to post their link should get the bonus of naming the page, such 
> as "P2P SIP Links".
>  If you do, please announce the page to the list.
>
>  What do you think?
>
>  Henry
>
>
>
>  ________________________________________
>  From: Dan York [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan York
>  Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 6:28 AM
>  To: Cullen Jennings
>  Cc: Enrico Marocco; Henry Sinnreich; Lars Eggert; Jon Peterson; P2PSIP 
> Mailing List
>  Subject: Re: [P2PSIP] Cullen Lying
>
>
>
>  On Mar 20, 2008, at 7:39 AM, Cullen Jennings wrote:
>
>
>
>  On Mar 20, 2008, at 3:48 AM, Enrico Marocco wrote:
>
>  Cullen Jennings wrote:
>  Henry, I don't know what I can do to convince you I am not lying. I
>  have said many times that there are other open source implementations
>  of P2P SIP proposals in addition to the fine work from Columbia.
>  Cisco
>
>  There are also *commercial* implementations of P2PSIP technology available 
> today. For instance, (P2PSIP WG Chair) David Bryan's SIPeerior Technologies 
> has a P2PSIP toolkit available. (And by the way, David gave a great 
> high-level talk about P2PSIP here at VoiceCon yesterday morning.)
>
>
>
>  Now, if only we could have a web page that pointed at all of the
>  work :-)
>
>  Can we not get a wiki page set up for the P2PSIP working group?    Or could 
> links like these be added to a page associated with the WG?
>
>  Regards,
>
> Dan
>
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