Yeah, my recollection from the last time this was discussed in TSV
gives me little hope that one would be standardized, but I would like
to discover I'm wrong here.

Bruce


On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Henning Schulzrinne
<[email protected]> wrote:
> For what (little) it's worth, there are existing implementation of
> TCP-over-UDP. I found
>
> http://thebends.org/~allen/utunnel/
> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/tcpoverudp/
> http://www.vergenet.net/linux/iproxy/iproxy_paper/stuff/iproxy_paper.pdf
> http://code.google.com/p/tcpoverudp/
>
> So we have several implementations *before* an Internet draft :-)
>
> Henning
>
> On Mar 26, 2009, at 4:10 PM, Salman Abdul Baset wrote:
>>
>> I am not religiously against running UDP between peers :). However, based
>> on reasons stated earlier, I think that RELOAD base draft of the P2PSIP WG
>> is the *not* right place to insert a reliable congestion control protocol.
>> It is easy to get these protocols wrong than right. We should not abandon
>> well designed TCP stacks so easily.
>>
>> As a practical insight, Skype application will not connect to the Skype
>> network if it cannot establish a TCP connection with a Skype super node.
>>
>> For those who want to run UDP, I totally agree with your idea of use
>> RFC-XXXX for a TCP-over-UDP protocol.
>>
>> I want to keep our focus on the issues of P2PSIP protocol such as
>> configuration, security, and overlay maintenance.
>>
>
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