Hi Jake,

> My more immediate concern is that anyone looking at the debug output
> of the FR server will be able to watch user names and passwords
> scroll by in completely clear text, again in a complex environment
> where the same people may not manage the FR server and the PF server
> that may be an issue. Not to mention the regulatory concerns, I am
> speaking of regulations like Sarbanes-Oxley, HIPA, FIRPA, etc.  BTW:
> even if your FR server is the same as your PF server, this still
> applies.

I think there is nothing we can do within PF to mitigate that.

What you can do:
- Couldn't you use another mean to authenticate your users that isn't 
plaintext inside RADIUS? I'm thinking about CHAP or PAP. Never tried it 
though
- or simply use SQL, LDAP or AD auth instead
- better yet: if someone authenticates successfully using a secure means 
(802.1X) automatically register them (now possible with pf 2.0). This 
way they never reach the captive portal and don't need to authenticate 
using insecure means

Then other mitigating factors:
- I would suggest to wrap the RADIUS dialog into an stunnel if you are 
sending the traffic over an untrusted network
- If a malicious user has access to run FreeRADIUS in debug mode you 
have other problems

See Alan DeKok's (aka the FreeRADIUS guy) reply on the topic of not 
showing passwords in debug mode:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg61877.html

If you find anything interesting let us know and we'll share it in our 
admin guide.

Cheers!
-- 
Olivier Bilodeau
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Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (www.sogo.nu) and PacketFence 
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