This one will absolutely blow up every plugin that does anything in
the background

But otherwise, it should be reasonably sane.

Adam K

On 1 June 2010 22:56, Peter Lavender <pla...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 10:32 +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote:
>
>> Personally, I wouldn't mind doing one last "stable" release of the
>> current trunk (since we've had a bit of an island of stability) and
>> then just breaking everything for a month or two, with a target of
>> being back to full stable by the birthday party. We haven't had a
>> particularly big breakage since Config 2.0, so maybe it's not
>> unreasonable to have one again a year later.
>
> I don't like the whole huge unstable periods. I think every such
> period lowers the level of contribution to Padre.
>
> Interesting observation...
>
> Now in the last couple of week we saw a lot less activity than before
> so I am not sure any further drop in involvement will be noticed :-(
> OTOH maybe the new and shiny Task will help generate some
> contributions.
>
>
> Not that I'm any expert in these things, but I think that the lack of
> involvement in Padre at the moment is due in part to our "alphas" being busy
> with other things.
>
> There is certainly a buzz in #padre when Adam is around pushing changes
> through, or Ahmed (azawawi) doing GUI stuff and the things that no one else
> seems to take on, like the key bindings stuff etc... And even you Gabor with
> the debugging stuff.. If people see the "main" people active in the channel
> and changes being committed there's are real feel of expectation.. like
> "can't wait to see the next release".. and people hanging around to get a
> glimpse of what is likely to come....
>
> When these guys are in the groove I feel the buzz is up, it gets people
> interested to see what's going on, and also gives us "low hanging fruit" to
> pick up along the way, thereby increasing the number of commits and
> committers.
>
> When these "alphas" drop off, there is less for us mere mortals to pick up.
> The buzz drops off and the level of involvement also slacks.
>
>
> I'd say go ahead break everything but please be around helping people
> to fix issues.
>
>
> Agreed, that's the big thing.. No slight on Steffen here, but the big change
> we did last time to fix up the leaked scalars was tough going, just after we
> merged Steffen's branch to trunk, Steffen was busy and we were left
> scratching our heads a bit with the changes - which I gather was about the
> time Adam really looked into the task API and began the long road to where
> he is today with his version of Task2.
>
> If Adam will be around, and with the seemingly 'straightforward' ability to
> port previous tasks to the new task2 and some people taking this up, I think
> we should be fine in terms of people being around and available to answer
> questions and sort things out.
>
> I"m more than happy to be around and on call to make quick fire releases as
> bugs get fixed.  I know any one can do releases any time they like, but I'm
> letting you all know I'll be around to get them done when ever the need
> arises.
>
>
>
> Regarding birthday and conferences ( I attend 3 conferences in June).
> I guess I'll need to install the currently released version of Padre and
> I won't be able to show it from SVN as it is going to be unstable.
>
> Or not... the last lot of "unstable" we had - especially as I was release
> manager - wasn't an eat your code and melt your CPU level of brokeness.  It
> was more like "we want to let you know if we find a bug there will be a new
> release soon after".. and a warning to package maintaners to sit back a
> while and wait until we are stable before spending hours building packages
> that may quickly find themselves replaced with a new release.
>
> However if you want a long stable release, we can go with spending a lot of
> time at 0.62 or 0.63 ( next one ) while we work on getting all Task based
> stuff migrated to Task2 with a big merge at the end of June.
>
> Just a thought and I'm happy to roll with consensus on this.
>
> Peter.
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