I may be misinterpreting this entire thread, but I sure hope this
isn't as nasty as it seems to be. Relax a bit!
--frank
On Sat, Mar 08, 2036 at 11:29:46PM -0600, Michael Sokolov wrote:
> John Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > A lot of the convenience comes from the new build-prc [...]
>
> It may be convenience for losers ignorant to anything but dumb applications,
> but it takes away one of PalmOS gcc's two greatest advantage over CodeWarrior:
> arbitrary custom program entities. Read Chapter 8 in the Programmer's Guide to
> PalmOS gcc. (The other is A4-based data, which you again have stolen from the
> innocent users.)
>
> > [...] which I don't think 0.6.0 uses.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Of course being a freedom lover I don't use your handcuffed build-prc.
>
> BTW, the "don't think" part makes it obvious that you haven't even looked at my
> distribution. Criticizing it without having even looked at it makes you look
> silly, don't you think?
>
> > So there may be differences in the user experience
> > for the ordinary application programmer.
>
> Of course there are differences in the user experience! My version gives you
> the same look, feel, taste, smell, spirit of freedom, and rights of life,
> liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as all previous versions. Yours is a jail
> cell like CodeWarrior. Why bother making it then? CodeWarrior already exists,
> for those who want a jail cell like that it's already there.
>
> > Right. Multiple code sections are a stop-gap measure until we have
> > a relaxing linker.
>
> Just as a note to people reading this, multiple code sections will still be
> there of course even with the relaxing linker, they will just be created the
> way they are supposed to be, via custom end user-written link scripts, not via
> those ugly gcc hacks.
>
> > Right. As we discussed earlier, and as you saw in my PalmSource talk,
> > the best long-term solution is to have the linker capable of relaxing
> > the jumps in the object files. I haven't had time to work on this, so
> > if you're going to do it, that's great!
>
> I sure am, and it's almost working. Note, though, that it's a lot harder than
> you probably realize, and the directions that you suggested at PalmSource and
> in our conversations led nowhere. Instead, as you know since I Cc'ed those
> E-mails to you, binutils principal maintainer Ian Lance Taylor on the binutils
> list pointed me in the right direction and I then figured out the rest (a lot
> of it) on my own, even despite my feeble GNU hacking skills. As you should also
> know from that binutils list discussion, this involves not only BFD and the
> linker, but also the assembler, and that is actually quite non-trivial too.
>
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