> Why don't you compare a $400 IIIc with a $400 WinCE?

I have a IIIc that I have used since I bought it in March. I have a Journada
545 that I bought a month and a half ago. Let me make just a couple of
points...

1. I have *never* had to reboot my desktop because HotSync crashed. I do it
with ActiveSync regularly.

2. I can easily find hundreds of legitimate, usuable software for the IIIc.
I'm not talking about games or "turn your Palm into a razor" apps, I'm
talking about the stuff I use every day. A time tracker, an enhanced ToDo
list, a password safe (ok, a plug for my own app), mail, and other software
that lets me use what I want on the desktop without being tied to Microsoft
desktop products. I spent an hour searching Handango for the same kinds of
things for the Journada and came up with 3.

3. I have attempted to relearn my writing ability so that CE can understand
what I write, but I have had very little success. I learned Graffiti in an
hour and had mastered it within days. I use the keyboard on CE.

4. I have never gotten an "out of memory" error from my Palm while running
an application. When I got it on CE, I realized that even though it looked
like I had switched to another application, the unused apps were still
running in the background, stealing memory and processor cycles. And I don't
think I need to tell everyone here about what a convoluted set of steps it
takes to terminate an application. (What *was* wrong with that X on CE,
Microsoft?)

5. I have never had to fine tune performance on my Palm IIIc. More on this
in the next part of this.. but it took me quite some time before I figured
out why it didn't seem like I had the 16 Meg of space the outside of the box
promised.

Let's talk about some of the things that CE "can do" that Palm "can't do":

1. The MP3 player is great and sounds reasonable over headphones. But when
trying to download a pair of MP3s (totalling about 8 Meg), I discovered I
couldn't even load one. Why? Because the 16 Meg the system ships with is
half consumed by the operating system alone. The rest has to be configured
by hand to allocate it between storage and application space. Huh?

2. The recorder is cool and has saved me the need for buying a cheaper
device. But I could have bought something that does only that job with more
space for $100. There's even a cheaper (and less storage space) one
available that replaces the hard cover on my IIIc.

3. The color depth is awesome. It looks much better than Palm and is the
primary reason why one of my clients wanted to go with CE. We are writing a
sales helper in which full color images are very important.

Bottom line, if this Windows CE machine had been my first exposure to PDAs,
I probably would have pitched it by now and be using paper again. My IIIc is
one of those with a bad digitizer (which makes graffiti input flaky at times
and precise selection difficult as well), but it still is a better machine
for my kind of daily use. I needed an organizer, not a laptop in my Palm.

> Or why don't you compare a $500 Palm with a $300 WinCE?

A $300 CE? That would be the Black and White iPaq, I believe? To a $500
Palm... hmmm... the Palm VIIx? Ok.. the CE machine can't do wireless out of
the box. Period. Paragraph. Thank you for playing. (And yes, I understood
your point. It is unfair to compare the m100 and the color iPaq. What
started this particular thread was a review that compared the HP Journada
545 (an about $450 machine) to the Palm IIIc (which was, until recently,
about a $450 machine).




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