I tried Google before I submitted a message to the Palm Developer Forum.  I
could find nothing using the keywords that I chose that fell under the
category of accessing Palm database information under Windows that provided
focused sample code.  My goal is to find some sample code in C (or in VB if
it runs under version 5.0).  I would certainly be very interested if you had
an example of opening a database containing text and integer data components
under Windows.  That is my goal, some basic, sample code in C.  I plan to
spend more time with the CDK to evaluate its contents more thoroughly, but
it is, for obvious reasons, focused on conduits, and I am interested, at the
moment, only in what may be a subset of a conduit for some applications
(developing a user interface that can read and write to a Palm database
under Windows).  I searched for a generic conduit development tool on the
web, and found nothing that would permit me to, say, specify the structure I
had used in the Palm software, and the database name, and have a ready made
conduit add-in.

Note, I am not primarily interested in conduits at the moment.  If I can't
access my data under Windows, the handheld database I am working on is
something of a waste of time.  Palm never intended to produce a handheld
desktop computer, and I don't wish to attempt to mis-apply the technology by
tasking it with more than user's will want to apply the device to
accomplish.

Your product sounds interesting, but I recall reading something from Palm
Source that indicated that, as an example, a sales price list could be sent
out to salespeople for them to load onto their Palm devices once per month,
without a conduit.  It was an example of why a conduit is not always
necessary.  If that proves to be so, then I can avoid the conduit
development.  I do recognize the benefit of the software you have described,
and, if it exists, am somewhat surprised that it is not as popular as PILRC.
I don't plan to pursue this as shareware or freeware, so the options you
presented won't work for me.  Any GNU license artifacts associated with the
software would probably be too restrictive for my interests.

Once again, thanks to anyone for any assistance with that Windows database C
access sample code.  I could certainly use it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henk Jonas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: palm-dev-forum
To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: After a non-conduit based download...


> Del Ventruella wrote:
>
> > Due to the complexity and risk of making users very unhappy, I am not
inclined to attempt to develop a conduit with the first version of the
software I am developing.  I understand that an automatic back-up download
can be induced using the latest version of the synchronizing software
provided with Palm OS devices.  I also understand that one can load a
database back onto a Palm OS device if one alters it externally and saves it
in a Palm OS database format on the PC in the proper sync file directory and
listing.
> >
> > Is there any example code available that will show me how to access the
database from a Palm device on a PC?  I'm running Windows.  I'd probably
attempt the access in Visual Basic 5.0 or using Borland C++ 4.5 (or in
Visual Basic 5.0 using a C++ dll if necessary to patch any problems with
data type conversions).
> >
> > I'd also like to know if there are any instructions that show me how to
use the emulator as the device with which to sync.  (I have it set to sync
with a Sony Clie.)
> >
> > Can anyone help with these questions?  Another question relates to any
Palm OS dll's and functions that are necessary to do this.  I've got the
4.03 development kit.  It doesn't support my available Window's development
environments and my OS, so I have some trepidation with regard to its use
and use of its functions.  (I was hoping to find an example that I could
quickly adapt that would enable me to try to access and print to the
computer screen the content of a record of a designated index within a
database that I would "download" from the emulator.)
> >
> > I also have some concerns regarding licensing issues due to the need to
use library functions that are permitted to be distributed with a conduit
(given that I am not writing a conduit, and am merely trying to access a
downloaded database file from a Palm device).  I don't see how a database
could be accessed without Palm functions written for use under Windows to
access unique database structures and number representation.  Some official
reassurance would be appreciated in that regard.
> >
> > Thanks for any technical and manufacturer legal guidance here.
> >
>
> To open and save the data in a PDB format go and download the fileformat
> description from PalmSource. Google is your friend. There are also a lot
> of libraries outside to do this task. Again try google you might also
> find stuff for VB.
> To resync the PDB to the handheld you will need to call the right calls
> from the InstAid.dll. Just a copy of the database in the correct
> directory will not be enough. Therefore you will have a look into the
> CDK documents.
>
> Regards
> Henk
>
> PS: I have a ready-made conduit called EasyReplic, which will care about
> the synchronization between handheld and desktop on PDB base.
> Independent from the content of the PDB the modification date will
> decide if the PDB is send to the handheld or backuped to the desktop.
> You might try it, is free for freeware products and very cheap for
> shareware (one time fee).
>
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>    Henk Jonas                                            [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    Palm OS ® certified developer
>
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