On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 10:30:23AM +0200, MORAND Lionel RD-CORE-ISS wrote:
> Hi Yoshi,
> 
> Maybe I was confusing! I'm not saying that the IP address/port number should 
> not be part of the PANA session attributes.
> I'm just saying that the wording:
> 
>        *  IP address and UDP port number of the PaC.
> 
> Might not be correct if you are considering NAT. But it is not a strong point 
> for me. Just a Nice-to-Have if considered to be useful.

I think it is correct in that PAA considers NAT as PaC.

Yoshihiro Ohba


> 
> BR,
> 
> Lionel
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Yoshihiro Ohba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Envoyé : jeudi 12 avril 2007 19:12
> > À : MORAND Lionel RD-CORE-ISS
> > Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Objet : Re: [Pana] IP address of the PaC in the PANA session attribute
> > 
> > Hi Lionel,
> > 
> > When NAT exists between PaC and PAA, the IP address and port 
> > number of the PaC will simply point to the ones used by NAT.  
> > If the IP address and/or port of PaC changes, the IP address 
> > and port number attributes will be modified to the new ones 
> > based on the IP address update procedure defined in Section 
> > 5.6.  Said that I don't see a problem with containing IP 
> > address and port number in the PANA session attributes.
> > 
> > Yoshihiro Ohba
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 05:55:45PM +0200, MORAND Lionel 
> > RD-CORE-ISS wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > There is a description of the PANA session attributes in 
> > the section 5.3:
> > > 
> > >    "PANA SA attributes as well as PANA session attributes are listed
> > >    below:
> > > 
> > >    PANA Session attributes:
> > > 
> > >       *  Session Identifier
> > > 
> > >       *  IP address and UDP port number of the PaC.
> > > 
> > >       *  IP address and UDP port number of the PAA
> > > 
> > >       *  Sequence number of the last transmitted request
> > > 
> > >       *  Sequence number of the last received request
> > > 
> > >       *  Last transmitted message payload
> > > 
> > >       *  Retransmission interval
> > > 
> > >       *  Session lifetime
> > > 
> > >       *  PANA SA attributes "
> > > 
> > > A NAT may exist between the PaC and the PAA (that is 
> > already covered 
> > > in section 6.1). Therefore, the PaC IP address/UDP port 
> > number should 
> > > not be part of the PANA session attributes. Instead, we should have 
> > > the source IP address and the UDP source port number of the last 
> > > PaC-initiated PANA messages (to take into account the fact that the 
> > > PaC may change its IP address cf. section 5.6). I don't have any 
> > > concrete proposal for improving the current text... But maybe it is 
> > > not needed if my comment is not valid at all ;)
> > > 
> > > Lionel
> > > 
> > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > De : Alper Yegin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Envoy? : jeudi 5 avril 2007 10:06
> > > > ? : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Objet : [Pana] Review pana-pana-15a
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > PANA specification is reviewed based on the last round of AD 
> > > > comments (thanks Yoshi!).
> > > > 
> > > > The spec is here: 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.panasec.org/docs/editing/draft-ietf-pana-pana-15a.txt
> > > > 
> > > > And it's diff with the version that predates last round of AD 
> > > > comments
> > > > (-13): 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.panasec.org/docs/editing/draft-ietf-pana-pana-15a-f
> > > > rom-3.diff.htm
> > > > l
> > > > 
> > > > Please review the document and register your feedback by 
> > the end of 
> > > > April 12, Thursday.
> > > > 
> > > > Upon collecting and resolving any issues, the document 
> > will proceed 
> > > > to IETF last call.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > Alper
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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