Land First All Shall Follow!!!

Majoni I dont think any court in the world will ever built PAC, I therefore 
think non will ever destroy PAC. Therefore comrades we remain drivers of our 
own destiny as the PAC. Before Alice congress there was PAC and that PAC was 
ruled under the decree which was in line with the constitution. What happens 
now is that we have the Bloumfontein High Court which recognised the Alice 
congress. Now we have the Cape High Court which seeks to nulify the Alice 
congress. Where do we feuture as the PAC members. Are we to rely on court 
decitions for the PAC. I think comrade to be fair it is under the current 
leadership that we can correct our situation. It is this current leadership 
(after all considerations) that is able to call us on a special congress to fix 
our problems. It is a sorry situation now that some of us who still claim to be 
PAC do not recognise this ability we have to built this organisation. If we do 
not recognise the current PAC leadership then
 which one do we have that can facilitate the ability to built PAC. Can we 
expect the court to call the congress for PAC? Comrades you are right saying 
that we did not join individuals when joining this movement. Also Prof Sobukwe 
tought us not to Hero worship any person for we cannot gaurantee an individual. 
Stop swearing at the current leadership. I agree with one comrade that the 
language we are using, swearing on the current leadership is a taboo to PAC. 
Now what agenda are we serving by continuasly using a taboo language when 
addressing other comrades. Again comrade if we do not recognise the current 
leadership why are we having so much interest in it. Lets stop lying to ourself 
comrade, we recognise this leadership and under this leadership we are able to 
correct our shortcomings in the PAC. I dont have to refere you to our 
diciplinary code. You should know it by now.

Forward to Afrika indipendence. Today South Africa tommorow the Democratic 
Socialist Azania.
Izwe Lethu!!

From: Yandisa Ngcuka <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
[email protected]; [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:41:55 PM
Subject: Re: FW: [PAYCO] Congress Invitation


Son of Afrika, 
 
This is realpolitik at its best, and I don’t think it should worry you that 
much as history will absolve these efforts by PAYCO.   History will certainly 
judge the current so called Leadership very harshly. 

There are two immediate dynamics that we need to critically scrutinize:  


1). We have a very weak organization:  Inter alia, there’s no leadership, no 
vision, almost non-existent structures, no programs, no legitimate policies, no 
political education and workshops, illegitimate constitution.   Therefore, it 
is my view that if we continue focusing on personalities (especially the 
president) as opposed to building our own structures, then these problems that 
we’re currently facing will always resurface.    Yes, building structures 
without any leadership might prove to be ineffective, however, It’s quite 
evident now that the “president” and his “NEC” are hell-bent to destroy the 
movement due to their narrow interests.   Their time will end, but the PAC will 
remain.  Our main priority comrades should be the PAC, not it’s compradorist 
leadership.   We did not join the individuals, we joined the organization and I 
think all of us – proponents and opponents and the leadership change need to 
grasp this
 logic. 


2). There is an issue of a Cape High Court Order against the PAC.   Amongst 
other things, the order states that:  “..the Constitution which was allegedly 
adopted by the First Respondent (PAC) at its meeting of 4 -6 July 2008 is set 
aside and declared to be null and void.”  
The “president” issued a memorandum on August 13th 2009 when it was evident to 
him that most structure are aware of this court order.  The Court Order is 
dated, 23 April 2009 and remained binding when the President lost the leave to 
appeal.   Why did the “president" take so long to inform the structures about 
this?  The Kwa Langa (ward 52) Branch of the Cape Metro region has requested 
the leadership to clarify the political and legal implications of the Court 
Order, with no avail - yet, the “president” is based in Cape Town.   
The above is a further indictment that the uninformed membership and the 
organizational disunity serve the so called leadership quite well as they 
continue looting the organizational resources while we insult each other.

Izwe Lethu!!

Yandisa   


On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Hulisani Mmbara <[email protected]> wrote:

  
>
>
________________________________
From: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
>[email protected]
>CC: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
>[email protected]
>Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:37:49 +0200
>Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Congress Invitation
>
>
>Dear Andiswa,
> 
>Hope this mail finds you well.
> 
>Through you , I need to address the Parco boys directly and with all due 
>respect request that you block their communication to the PAC, which they do 
>not respect.
> 
>Kevin and Linda I said it before and I will say it again, My president is not 
>your President so I do not expect you to send any letters to his office, in 
>case you are not aware we have only 1 seat in parliament thanks to you and 
>your weak organization cos had it  not been  for PAYCO we would have obtain 
>more seat than one. So stop sending him your rubbish. If your organization is 
>going to a congress then tell that to people who care,but, hey I know why you 
>send it to us, you are prodigal sons who want to come back home and the only 
>way to come home is by you dropping your acts and joining the PACYL as members.
> 
>You guys are agents of our struggle's enemy and it pains me to see such active 
>young men like yourselves confused in a way you are, you say one thing and do 
>another. As the national spokesperson for PACYL until the congress why don't 
>you engage me and other coordinator like Pitso and Derrick. 
> 
>And as for the issue of assault I suggest that you be very civil about your 
>approach to politics, cos clearly you think we are scared and afraid of you 
>but we are not. Linda I need you to disciple Thapelo in Pretoria tell him PAC 
>is not a Boxing ring if he wants to talk he must use the facility we called 
>mouth and not fist.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
________________________________
From: Andiswa Mjali [mailto:[email protected]] 
>Sent: 18 August 2009 03:04 PM
>To: Tumelo Segakweng; [email protected]
>Subject: FW: [PAYCO] Congress Invitation
>
>
>FYI
>
>
________________________________
From: Andiswa Mjali [mailto:[email protected]] 
>Sent: 18 August 2009 01:43 PM
>To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
>[email protected]; [email protected]
>Subject: Fw: [PAYCO] Congress Invitation
>
>
>FYI
>
>
>
>----- Forwarded Message ----
>From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>Sent: Tuesday, 18 August, 2009 10:22:23
>Subject: [PAYCO] Congress Invitation
>
>Revolutionary Greetings!!!
>
>Kindly receive the signed Congress Invitation. Pleace circulate it far and
>wide as possible.
>
>Yours in socialist revolution.
>
>Kwame Ndebele
>PAYCO Secretary General
>
>
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