Dear Comrade Moloto 

I acknowlegde receipt of the e-mail.I agree with your views on the question of 
unity in the PAC.

Regards
Hloni




________________________________
From: Narius Moloto <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 10:30:48 AM
Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Indeed PAC needs Unity


We must establish the principles for party unity.unprincipled unity is 
artificial and unsestanable pac does need that.there is one pac and will always 
have one pac.since its inception pac always had factions and i just cant 
imagine pac without factions which thinks they are the real pac.
 
From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of SOSO 
MASHILOANE
Sent: 24 May 2010 09:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Indeed PAC needs Unity
 
 
 Izwe Lethu Ma- Afrika
 
I concur with  the President of Payco with all the consultation process which 
needs to be followed however my biggest concern is that , who should be the 
initiator of this UNITY process? Is he or she going to be recognised by our so 
could factional structures (Both NTT & the Pac which is under Letlapa) ? Lastly 
Ma - Afrika how far can we go for the sake of PAC to reach this common goal? I 
understand that some of our activist from the ranks and files of PAC history 
would always judge them harshly.
 
Its time that we have viable, credible & constituency base structures
 
Yours in quest for Africanist cause
 
Soso Mashiloane
Former PASMA DSG
076 363 6666
--- On Sun, 5/23/10, Mohlomphegi Mphahlele <[email protected]> wrote:

>From: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Indeed PAC needs Unity
>To: [email protected]
>Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 6:34 PM
>Mo Afrika Kwame
>
>Joni lets not make this issue of unity a shallow misdirected topic. Leadership 
>of Letlapa is very much recognised in our constitutional institution . We 
>cannot continue to disregard this fact. You can argue much on this issue, you 
>can even give practical references to this issue but the trueth of the matter 
>is that Letlapa's leadership is recognised not only by our neo liberal 
>constitution, it is also recognised by the 40 000 plus people who voted PAC in 
>the last election which remains questionable if you and your other comrades 
>ever contributed or participated in that simple minority vote for PAC. So 
>comrade you can shout at your loudest voice and only a handful of your faction 
>will ever hear you. What remains to the majority of PAC comrades is that Payco 
>is for the distruction of PAC based on their hate or rather a personal hate to 
>Letlapa and others. This unity does not concern Letlapa and few others, it 
>concern the majority of us who want to see a
 united PAC. Your excusses cannot be accepted. You are either for the unity of 
PAC or you are unti unity of PAC period. 
>
>For Africanist Unity!! Viva PAC
> 
>
________________________________

>From:Dzumbu Mmbara <[email protected]>
>To: PAYCO <[email protected]>
>Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 11:27:49 AM
>Subject: [PAYCO] Indeed PAC needs Unity
>
>http://payco.org.za/index.php/payco-members-forum/4-ideology-and-general-politics/11-indeed-pac-needs-unity
>1 Hour, 50 Minutes ago
>
>
>Dear Africanists,
>
>Allow me to express my self on the issue of Unity talks as propagated and 
>envisaged by party stalwarts like Johnson Mlambo, Dr Stanley Mogoba, Joe 
>Mkhwanazi and other party founding members. The idea of unity and cohesion in 
>the PAC is paramount and supported by PAYCO and surely by all in the PAC. 
>
>Having said the above, as PAYCO we believe any talk of unity must be founded 
>on shared common goals and driven by common desires. We stand for unity of 
>purpose, hence we've been calling for unity of purpose and the adoption of a 
>National Programme of Action that would drive and direct our programmes, 
>activities and goals as an organisation. We share the concerns raised by the 
>comrades who are propagating for Unity Talks, but we disagree with the 
>approach adopted completely. We believe any attempt to handle party unity 
>cannot succeed as long as those who lead that process are not brutally honest 
>with those they are trying to unite. For starters, we have not heard these 
>leaders denouncing factionalism that is fueled by Mphahlele in the party, 
>rejecting the creation of parallel structures, physical assaults to party 
>members, non distribution of party membership cards, disbandment of structures 
>that refuse to support an Agenda to destroy the party and total
 disregard of party constitution. We expect those who lead this process to 
speak out against these destructive tendencies as they have been unashamed to 
attack PAYCO for its non support of the Unity Talks.
>
>PAYCO can also put on record that it has not been formally engaged on this 
>matter , which is quite strage. You would normally expect that structures 
>would be formally engaged individually on the objectives of the process and be 
>given an opportunity to interrogate the entire process and to take into 
>confidence its structures on the ground. This has not been the case with these 
>Unity Talks. The main contenders have not been engaged, we've been hearing 
>about the Unity Talks on Facebook and over the grapevine. We hold a view that 
>this process has not been properly handled therefore cannot succeed to unite 
>PAC.
>
>PAYCO also feels it was completely out of order for the proponents of the 
>Unity Talks to undermine the Cape Town Convention and its resolutions in 
>pursuing Unity Talks. The organisers of the Unity Talks have undermined the 
>National Task Team, a structure that was given a mandate to lead the PAC to 
>the National Policy Conference and the National Congress. The National Task 
>Team is the only structure that commands respect from all party component 
>structures,e.i, PAYCO, PASMA, PAWO, PALF, APLAMVA and PASO. PAYCO shall only 
>partake in unity Talks that put constitutionality first and that is driven by 
>the National Task Team or jointly driven with the National Task Team. PAC 
>needs no Messiahs to salvage it from this quagmire it finds itself into, we 
>are quite capable to resolve our problems on our own.
>
>United We Stand! Divided We Fall!!!
>
>Foward Ever!!! Backward Never!!!
>
>Izwe Lethu!!
>
>Kwame Ndebele
>PAYCO President
>
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