From: Justice [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 24 May 2010 01:06 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Indeed PAC needs Unity
Izwe lethu
Can someone lay down the principles of party unity so that we engage on
informed basis. How do we establish a platform that will be welcomed to
all ? where do we reach a compromise in terms of unity. But for us to
move forward we need to do the following:
Disband all parallel structures and we agree one name for youth, women
structures and disband unconstitutional aplamva and have one
leadership.
Pac current nec must disband and a COLLECTIVE interim that is inclusive
be set up even if Cde Letlapa leads it as he promised in 21 march at
sharpvile 2009 that his priority is party building and party unity and
this will give him the opportunity to do so.
The interim then be given 24 months to build the programme that will
lead to Pac conference in the first 12 months and eventually to
congress.
During the 24 months period we must build branches and provinces jointly
in one administration. A party building programme is crucial.
Membership must be open to all Pac members irrespective without singling
out anyone. We must welcome everyone to come back but as individuals not
groups.
We must all reach a compromise if we want to build the party and in
this way we shall have come close to party unity and factionalism will
fade in time as long as we stick to Pac discipline. If anyone become
destructive then you all know what the oath say about such issues.
MAKUBE NJALO
AND ALSO TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION OF WHAT MAWANDE JACK POSTED ON PARTY
UNITY
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of lehlohonolo Shale
Sent: 24 May 2010 11:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Indeed PAC needs Unity
Dear Comrade Moloto
I acknowlegde receipt of the e-mail.I agree with your views on the
question of unity in the PAC.
Regards
Hloni
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From: Narius Moloto <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 10:30:48 AM
Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Indeed PAC needs Unity
We must establish the principles for party unity.unprincipled unity is
artificial and unsestanable pac does need that.there is one pac and will
always have one pac.since its inception pac always had factions and i
just cant imagine pac without factions which thinks they are the real
pac.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of SOSO MASHILOANE
Sent: 24 May 2010 09:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Indeed PAC needs Unity
Izwe Lethu Ma- Afrika
I concur with the President of Payco with all the consultation process
which needs to be followed however my biggest concern is that , who
should be the initiator of this UNITY process? Is he or she going to be
recognised by our so could factional structures (Both NTT & the Pac
which is under Letlapa) ? Lastly Ma - Afrika how far can we go for the
sake of PAC to reach this common goal? I understand that some of our
activist from the ranks and files of PAC history would always judge them
harshly.
Its time that we have viable, credible & constituency base structures
Yours in quest for Africanist cause
Soso Mashiloane
Former PASMA DSG
076 363 6666
--- On Sun, 5/23/10, Mohlomphegi Mphahlele <[email protected]>
wrote:
From: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Indeed PAC needs Unity
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, May 23, 2010, 6:34 PM
Mo Afrika Kwame
Joni lets not make this issue of unity a shallow misdirected
topic. Leadership of Letlapa is very much recognised in our
constitutional institution . We cannot continue to disregard this fact.
You can argue much on this issue, you can even give practical references
to this issue but the trueth of the matter is that Letlapa's leadership
is recognised not only by our neo liberal constitution, it is also
recognised by the 40 000 plus people who voted PAC in the last election
which remains questionable if you and your other comrades ever
contributed or participated in that simple minority vote for PAC. So
comrade you can shout at your loudest voice and only a handful of your
faction will ever hear you. What remains to the majority of PAC comrades
is that Payco is for the distruction of PAC based on their hate or
rather a personal hate to Letlapa and others. This unity does not
concern Letlapa and few others, it concern the majority of us who want
to see a united PAC. Your excusses cannot be accepted. You are either
for the unity of PAC or you are unti unity of PAC period.
For Africanist Unity!! Viva PAC
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From: Dzumbu Mmbara <[email protected]>
To: PAYCO <[email protected]>
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 11:27:49 AM
Subject: [PAYCO] Indeed PAC needs Unity
http://payco.org.za/index.php/payco-members-forum/4-ideology-and-general
-politics/11-indeed-pac-needs-unity
1 Hour, 50 Minutes ago
Dear Africanists,
Allow me to express my self on the issue of Unity talks as
propagated and envisaged by party stalwarts like Johnson Mlambo, Dr
Stanley Mogoba, Joe Mkhwanazi and other party founding members. The idea
of unity and cohesion in the PAC is paramount and supported by PAYCO and
surely by all in the PAC.
Having said the above, as PAYCO we believe any talk of unity
must be founded on shared common goals and driven by common desires. We
stand for unity of purpose, hence we've been calling for unity of
purpose and the adoption of a National Programme of Action that would
drive and direct our programmes, activities and goals as an
organisation. We share the concerns raised by the comrades who are
propagating for Unity Talks, but we disagree with the approach adopted
completely. We believe any attempt to handle party unity cannot succeed
as long as those who lead that process are not brutally honest with
those they are trying to unite. For starters, we have not heard these
leaders denouncing factionalism that is fueled by Mphahlele in the
party, rejecting the creation of parallel structures, physical assaults
to party members, non distribution of party membership cards,
disbandment of structures that refuse to support an Agenda to destroy
the party and total disregard of party constitution. We expect those who
lead this process to speak out against these destructive tendencies as
they have been unashamed to attack PAYCO for its non support of the
Unity Talks.
PAYCO can also put on record that it has not been formally
engaged on this matter , which is quite strage. You would normally
expect that structures would be formally engaged individually on the
objectives of the process and be given an opportunity to interrogate the
entire process and to take into confidence its structures on the ground.
This has not been the case with these Unity Talks. The main contenders
have not been engaged, we've been hearing about the Unity Talks on
Facebook and over the grapevine. We hold a view that this process has
not been properly handled therefore cannot succeed to unite PAC.
PAYCO also feels it was completely out of order for the
proponents of the Unity Talks to undermine the Cape Town Convention and
its resolutions in pursuing Unity Talks. The organisers of the Unity
Talks have undermined the National Task Team, a structure that was given
a mandate to lead the PAC to the National Policy Conference and the
National Congress. The National Task Team is the only structure that
commands respect from all party component structures,e.i, PAYCO, PASMA,
PAWO, PALF, APLAMVA and PASO. PAYCO shall only partake in unity Talks
that put constitutionality first and that is driven by the National Task
Team or jointly driven with the National Task Team. PAC needs no
Messiahs to salvage it from this quagmire it finds itself into, we are
quite capable to resolve our problems on our own.
United We Stand! Divided We Fall!!!
Foward Ever!!! Backward Never!!!
Izwe Lethu!!
Kwame Ndebele
PAYCO President
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