The PAC itself must not be spared from criticism.  An important building block 
for party building is criticism and self-criticism.  We must internally allow a 
free rein of ideas from our own cadres and members, and encourage discussions 
to develop ways and means of making the party a strong vehicle of change for 
the masses.  We also need to grasp the political theory that informs the PAC 
followers on the type of institution we are and the kind of society we envisage 
and work towards achieving.  We must measure ourselves according to the 
yardstick we've developed, and keep focus on the goals we intend to reach. 
There is a tendency to measure the PAC on the same standard that the ANC has 
set for itself.  This is completely wrong.  This makes us live under the shadow 
of a different entity.  I take my cue for saying this from the Programme of 
Action of 1949.  The gist of this document is also the aims and objectives of 
the PAC, word for word.  The PoA takes a strategic view that African people 
should drive their own programmes of upliftment and liberation, and it sets out 
the complete variables that are needed to attain those goals.  This is whether 
there is a friendly government or a hostile one.  The PAC and the African 
people must set the pace and unflinchingly drive the freedom train.  If we copy 
and emulate the present day ANC's structures and programmes - including 
collaborating with government programmes - we will soon go into a straat loop 
dood.  Ideas are throttled and shunted up and down in a scheme of deception 
that they call discussion documents.  The Gear policy for example was written 
by World Bank technocrats, not ANC members.  That is one of the reasons the 
Malema charade on nationalisation was not going to be entertained, no matter 
how misguided Malema is.     We are not people-centred.  We take pot shots from 
the sidelines at the way government is doing things wrong, but do not engineer 
our own programmes to take over state power to control our land.  We fail to 
rouse the masses in uprisings where their interests are challenged.  Some of 
our own comrades wallow in factionalism despite the fact that they know it is 
wrong to do so.  We even praise anarchists whose intention is to destroy the 
work done in building the PAC over the years.  What is it that informs the 
decree stated by Letlapa Mphahlele?   If we begin to discuss weighty matters 
such as socio-economic policiies and the aim to establish an Africanist 
socialist society, we are aiming to increase our knowledge and the ability to 
debate openly with facts.  When we go to national conferences and to congresses 
the nation will begin to want to hear our views.  They now only know that 
Mphahlele is a tyrant who argues with a knuckle duster and think that his one 
man show is the best thing.  He and his cohorts do not know the PAC and the 
Africdan people.    
 Subject: Re: [PAYCO]
To: [email protected]
From: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:41:49 +0000






For me it makes no sense other than political expediency for the YCL to cry 
foul play and present itself as a champion of the indigenous African people 
when the settler leader Pieter Mulder makes an insulting statement on the 
indigenous African people noting that the Communist Party of South Africa were 
the authors of the Freedom Charter that gave white settlers full ownership of 
our land. It is also worth noting that SACP leaders were architects of the 
CODESA & World Trade Centre processes that legitimized the stealing of our land 
and its entrenchment through "property clause" in the 1996 Constitution of the 
Republic.

Neither the ANC nor the SACP have any right to pretend to be fighting the cause 
of the indigenous people on the question of land or any other issue relating to 
total emancipation of the African people, they lost that right in 1955 with the 
adoption of Freedom Charter in Kliptown.

Ofcourse in the absence of a genuine leftist party in Azania  wolves will 
assume the vacuum and exploit it to their advantage.

 If SACP is really communist, then its the worst representative of communism. 
When Mbeki implemented neo-liberal policies, key players in that program and 
his cabinet were the very so communist, Jeff Hadebe, Membathisi Mdladlane, 
Nqakula to name but a few. The so called South African Communists are loyal to 
capitalism and its neo-liberal policies than socialism.

It is important also not to misrepresent PAC founding fathers as 
anti-communism. PAC basic document and speeches by Sobukwe are succinct on this 
issue and should be captured and quoted and such to avoid misinterpretation and 
giving unnecessary credit to SACP liberals.

Kwame
Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!From:  Jaki 
Seroke <[email protected]>
Sender:  [email protected]
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 13:31:57 +0200To: <[email protected]>ReplyTo:  
[email protected]
Subject: RE: [PAYCO]

A quick response to your concerns:
 
Anyone who has not read or came across the rubric (the framing of the 
discourse) on why the Pan Africans rejected the Muscovite communism will always 
assume - as the press has always done - that the PAC and its associates are 
against the ideals of a new society where exploitation is eliminated.  In the 
book, Pan Africanism or Communism, the experience of being treated in the same 
downgrading racial terms as the colonialists by the communist international is 
criticised and rejected in toto.  The Chinese also broke ranks with the 
"comintern" on more or less the same grounds.  In Southern Africa, the 
interpretation of the national question by the Communist Party of SA was not 
genuine - they refused to name the problem and took to obfuscating terms such 
as "colonialism of a special type"  and even asked white workers to unite 
against the miners recruited in Mozambique, Malawi and the hinterlands of 
occupied Azania who were indigenous to the land. That is why Oom Gqobs referred 
to the pseudo-communists as quacks, as in false doctors.  A wrong diagnosis and 
a wrong prescription.
 
This explanation helps to understand why in the PAC Basic Documents we refute 
the concept of totalitarianism and instead agree to democracy where the 
majority rules and basic freedom are accorded all citizens.  The Soviet Union 
collapsed after seventy years because they chased the arms race, had a 
Kremlin-controlled state harassing and suppressing the views of its own people, 
applied bad practices and corruption in economic and foreign affairs policies, 
and exploited to the hilt its satellites in east Europe and in countries such 
as Angola and Mozambique in Southern Africa.  They relied on propaganda to 
sustain themselves.  In reality they suffered food shortages and a myriad of 
other challenges which led to stagnation of the economy and the final collapse. 
 
 
A close analysis will show that the Soviet Union practised state capitalism.  
The state traded on behalf of its citizens and suppressed initiatives by 
farmers collectives, business forums, worker-led innovations, and other free 
thinking patriots.  The rich were party aristocrats and the masses suffered.  
That is not socialism.  The principles of socialism are to generate wealth and 
redistribute it to benefit the majority who worked for it.  Socialism is not 
poverty or it is not intended to glorify the poor in their parlous state.  In 
fact, it promotes hard work and honest trading and the need for each to apply 
themselves according to their ability in the creation of a national economy.  
It also encourages creativity and innovation to modernise and reform for 
collective progress.  What failed in the Soviet Union is the dictatorship of 
the state.  Contrast this with the Peoples Republic of China where the 
Communist Party has developed socialism with Chinese characteristics.  Ever 
since Mao met with US president Nixon in 1972, the Communist party leadership 
went on and enhanced their understanding of socialism, and worked on the 
building blocks such as education and training of their engineers and 
scientists, their practice of self-reliance and setting up the framework to 
build a foundation for economic growth.  They created a vision for the well 
being of their people and their country, and made strategic plans.  In 1978 
China was backwards in many respects in its economic programmes.  Today they 
are a leading nation in the world  -  and they are still communists and their 
planned economy is still socialism.
 
The ANC and their youth wing and their partners in the so-called communist 
party always follow the four winds and go every which way the wind blows.  They 
allied themselves to Bill Clinton after the collapse of the Soviet Union, and 
took his neo-liberal policies.  Their colonial minded labour leaders modelled 
development on the scripts of the World Bank of Reconstruction and Development. 
 Look at SA now after sixteen years.  We should prepare ourselves for a round 
of popular uprisings  -  the masses catch hell and they have had enough.  It is 
a ruse and a side show to argue with Peter Mulder whom they have appointed 
deputy minister of agriculture over who owns who and who came first.  It is a 
clear example that we are in a neo-colonial state with the settlers still 
calling the shots.
 
Jaki
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [PAYCO] 
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:18:46 +0000











Cde’s Seroke, Ndebele
 
With the waterloo of a somewhat reactionary ANCYL leadership that has hitherto 
presented itself as a vanguard of the liberation of the African people. On the 
past few days the YCL has emerged as an alternative to the poor, that is, the
 economically downtrodden African masses. Reacting to the ahistorical assertion 
of
 Pieter
 Mulder 
that Africans did not own 40% of the land before the advent of settler 
minority, it has called Zuma to sack him.
In your own assessment, what is the significance of the communist formations in 
the 21st century after the fall of the Soviet hegemony in the late eighties. 
Mfanasekhaya Gqobose, addressing APLA cadres in the early 90s, once referred to 
the
 communist as quacks.
 
 
kind regards
Mduduzi Sibeko
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