Cde's Xaba, Ndebele and Seroke

I perceive that Africanists espouse communist sentiments, despite the fact that 
we don't have such tags. Every time, we write about social inequalities, we 
argue that the current  social milieu advances the interests of the minority. I 
have been wrestling about thinking of a better panacea to address the social 
ills of society in modern times, or to put it simple, ever since the capitalist 
system was inaugurated in the preceding centuries. The answer I get: is that 
wealth must be distributed equally. However, I find difficulties in finding a 
suitable solution, given that the communist system experiment in the Soviet 
Union and Eastern Europe failed. Nikita Khrushchev after the death of Joseph 
Stalin was naïve, thinking that communism was a better way of living once it 
has been de-Stalinized. But latter, his reforms fell short in addressing the 
problem between the rich and the poor. I believe that the capitalist system 
will thrive despite our continued aversion to it. What is the 
Africanist-socialist democracy that Prof Sobukwe spoke about ?or may the 
question should be, if the PAC  gets into the power, how will it address the 
socio-economic disparities created by apartheid. Are we communist in disguise ?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:28 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Sbu Xaba; Jaki Seroke
Subject: Re: RE: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE


The functioning of democracy within the free market system which inherently 
permits a few to control the means of production and distribution will 
logically result to democarcy serving few. Therefore social engineering will be 
premised on the basis of an elitist system whereat the majority are subjugated 
to servants or modern days slavery, neo colonialism arises as a tentacle which 
serves the interest of the dominant mode of production and distribution. In 
Azania the seventy percent of the national wealth is concentrated in less 
twenty percent of the population. Thus 1994 democratic dispensation has been a 
reformist change whereat the base namely control of the mode of production and 
distribution remains intact including the state machinery remained 
untransformed however white faces were replaced by Black faces, Amilcar Cabral 
on the Weapon of Theory Havana document has vividly elucidated this 
perspective. However Cabral goes further that African liberation organisations 
are not engaging on theoratical debates and discussions on the matters, it 
therefore follows that the prevalent political theoratical and ideological 
defiency within the movement demostrated by popular phrase mongering and 
sloganeering confirms Cabral analysis.

Sekou Toure once argued that the African people need a movement that is 
organisation for with, within and through organisation, a crucial space is 
exploited progressively to create a consciouss mass which will and can act 
systematically with a defined sense of purpose and result. Structures are 
formed to systematically pursue organisational political programme. Weak and 
poor organisation creates space for neocolonialism and exploitation of the 
working masses to prevail. It is only in poorly organised and weak formations 
that self serving leadership prevails and the downtrodden & toiling masses used 
as a ladder for greener pastures consequently such organisations will 
continuosly breed such type of leadership. Blame less leaders for they are a 
product of organisation, to alter the cause of events through proper 
reorganisation the necessary leadership with integrity and selfless character 
having embraced revolutionary discipline and willing to subject oneself to the 
will and aspiration of people will emerge organically.

Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Cellphone: 0749226361
Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

On 3 Apr 2012 11:57, "Sebenzile Mlaza" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Revolutionary greetings sons and daughters of the soil,

Here is a quiz: "What is better to lose both capital and the African agenda or 
lose capital and have the African agenda or have capital and lose the African 
agenda." Without influencing your answers, bear in mind that policies such as 
GEAR, and even the South African constitution (property clause quickly comes to 
mind here) are all but designed to protect minority interests - read this to 
mean settler interests. Remember politics is about the seizure of state power 
(by any means necessary -  hook or crook), and power is about money. The entire 
African Diaspora has ring-fenced itself 'round this winner takes all foreign 
ideology, they blow hot and cold, take this European trash and turn it to 
African treasure.

A Zulu monarch, king Cetshwayo once challenged this sh*tstym called democracy 
which he argued to be a system best at satisfying few people at the expense of 
the unsuspecting majority. It is basically a system of government by way of 
co-option. The army and the police are there only to serve one purpose - 
perpetuation and sustainability of the system. Dissenters are easily ridiculed 
and dubbed agent provocateurs and enemies of the state. We only see demands 
made during electioneering met by brutal force (kraag) accompanied by baton 
beating, rubber bullets shooting and tear-gassing. In worst case scenarios by 
detention and even death. This simply validates a scientific assertion that 
human beings naturally harbour autocratic and despotic tendencies which they 
have inherited from their own primate ancestors, the Homo Sapiens.

Now, how dare South Africa pride itself of having drafted the best constitution 
in the world when the vast majority of the African population is permanently 
trapped in poverty in their partly tarred neighbourhoods. Problem is, persons 
we admired, correctly so, who are now taking potshots at the compradores in the 
ANC government are all getting stipends from the same government by virtue of 
being graduates from exile or Robben Island. It's do or die, sink or swim 
Ma-Afrika! We need to be smart and not be too hard on ourselves, we owe it to 
the PAC and the entire continent of Africa and her children. When even monkeys 
could fall from trees which is a turf they are familiar with, then Africanists 
who have swelled the ranks of the ruling party know that the  eschatology of 
ruling 'till parousia making the centenary hullaballoo sempiternal is 
paralogistic. That's for sure. Heed this unsolicited advice and indeed one day 
Sobukwe's message will be resurrected, Izwe Lethu!!!


ps: A deliberately haggard-looking Kwame Ture (formerly known as Stockley 
Carmichael) was once told by the late Mirriam Makeba on their wedding day that 
"we are not fighting to remain in the mud."

Sebenzile Mlaza
011 223 0190

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of 
Jaki Seroke
Sent: 03 April 2012 09:18
To: Sbu Xaba ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] SOBUKWE WILL NEVER DIE

In Manning Marable's  "Malcom X - A Life of Reinvention" (2011) the eminent 
academic compares Malcolm to Sobukwe. He deals with myth and falsehoods in the 
media on the life of Malcom X.

Relate this development to the silence on Malcolm X that dominated Black 
America for more than two decades after his death. The uprising of youth in 
Atlanta and Los Angeles in the nineties - who identified with the powerful 
message of Malcolm X that the US itself was a bigger prison and African 
Americans were inmates - was ignited by police brutality on an innocent and 
defenseless young man.  Subsequently, the image of X was in fashion, it was 
commercialized and Spike Lee even produced a successful full length movie.

Sobukwe at the moment in South Africa will form a rallying point for a 
grassroots revolution. Snippets like the SABC documentary and concerted efforts 
to publicize the ideas of Prof will spark a prairie fire. Reuel Khoza uses Prof 
as a beacon of light in leadership principles in his book, "Attuned Leadership 
- African Humanism as Compass" (2011). Khoza is today emboldened to openly 
express his misgivings on the government's lack of leadership.

Our own internal tsotsi elements, who aim to steal the Party from its members, 
have their backs against the wall. They are blocking the free flow and 
blossoming of the ideas of Sobukwe from reaching the masses, when they 
selfishly hoard the PAC as their own. They stole NACTU from its members (and 
stole R79m from the workers) and rendered it a toothless labor body (See M&G 
March 30 - 4 April 2012, p12). They cannot be allowed to do the same damage to 
the PAC. The reality is that PAC is the African people - as Chairman Pokela 
used to say.

The democratic process of openness and consultancy with all the members, 
returning to constitutionality in the PAC and subjecting ourselves to scrutiny 
in a fair manner in a national conference, ahead of holding a congress - forms 
the bedrock principle of democratic centralism. The tsotsis deny this process 
and want to smuggle themselves fraudulently as leaders. Take heed, sons and 
daughters of Afrika.

Mangaliso Sobukwe will never die.

Jaki

Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Sbu Xaba <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2012 06:11:32
To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [PAYCO]

Is legacy of Mandela & King sustain itself? Will it survive post current 
imperial era? Will Sobukwe & X legacy really survive the current onslaught 
against it?




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