Comrade Xola There are many wrongs and negatives in the PAC and very few positives. And the payco google was formed as far back as 2004 or 2005, why did not discourage Sbusiso, Mashao and other PAYCO members to close this google group. Part of the reasons we have so many wrongs and negatives in the PAC it is because comrades are hypocrites. It well and good to use PAYCO Google Group to rubbish Pheko's NEC and post 2007 PAYCO Google Groups has been used to rubbish Letlapa's Leadership, so precedence has been set and you were part of all these wrong doing. Worse of all you, Justice and Nofuma and others hidden faces you form part of the appointment of Muendane and Fihla to the NEC by Nariu-Mpethi faction.
If you are serious about building PAC then firstly Joni, you must become honest and sincere, this includes you to stop smearing campaign against comrades who disagrees with you. Izwe lethu Ndima On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Xola <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > Will the Facebook/PAYCOgoogle Branch members ever stop? There was PAC long > before Cde Mphahlele and Cde Mololo and surely as the sun rises in the East > there'll be PAC long before they are gone. The day some of you stop > focusing on the negatives and concentrate on the positives is the day > you'll start moving in the right direction. In as much some of us were not > happy with the processes leading to Butterworth, we however went knowing > very well that the playing fields were not leveled and accepted the > results. As for the prophets of doom and professional fault-finders that > the party breeds nowadays many did not even attend the Butterworths > Congress for all kinds of reasons and interestingly have all the solutions > to PAC problems, with some even wanting to suggest that PAC problems > started on the 11th May. With all due respects, let's discuss and solve PAC > problems in relevant platforms. Unite maAfrika. Forward to the > establishment of an Africanist Socialist Democracy. > > Nchi yetu! > > Tyamzashe > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------ > *From: * Tongogara Ndima <[email protected]> > *Date: *Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:05:54 +0200 > *To: *[email protected]<[email protected]> > *Cc: *Mohlomphegi Mphahlele<[email protected]>; Apa Pooe< > [email protected]>; [email protected]< > [email protected]>; justice mvakali<[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; Alton Mphethi<[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; eddie mfulwane<[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; Andiswa Mjali<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; david mabitsela<[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; Malinge Plaatjie<[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; Adelaide Mulaudzi< > [email protected]>; [email protected]<[email protected]>; > Lehlohonolo Shale<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; Sibusiso Xaba<[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; APLAMVA LIMPOMPO<[email protected]>; > [email protected]<[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; Luyanda Gwina<[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; Kutie Thondlana<[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > [email protected]<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; Lehlogonolo Digashu< > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; Danny Monareng< > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > [email protected]<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; [email protected]< > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; [email protected]< > [email protected]>; Lerato Lephatsa<[email protected]>; > [email protected]<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; Ikey Isaacs< > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; Gordon MPinie< > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; Vusi8 .< > [email protected]>; [email protected]<[email protected]>; Xola > Tyamzashe<[email protected]>; Jabu Makhanya<[email protected]>; < > [email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; vakele > mkandawire<[email protected]>; Mzwandile Montjane<[email protected]>; > Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi<[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [PAYCO] RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph > Mothopeng > > Comrade Nkrumah > > The angle you brought is interesting, it is true that some or most PAC NEC > members are hiding themselves by posing as supporting or being against Cde > President Letlapa Mphahlele and Cde GS Moloto. I thought we will hear NEC > members speaking with one voice as a united PAC but we are not seeing this, > maybe these comrades think they are fooling all of us, where is Cde Justice > Mvakali, Cde Mohlomphegi and Cde Nofuma, these comrades used to travel all > over the country mobilising members and branches against Cde Letlapa > Mphahlele as President. Muendana and others are appointed into the NEC > without following the constitution, now they are nowhere to give us > feedback since PAC is falling apart. Let us not forget that some once > declared APLAMVA as a non-profit organisation not belonging to PAC, after > their plans falling apart because Plaatjie's PAM failed to secure a seat in > parliament they came back to PAC through the back door attacking Cde > Letlapa or destroying PAC! > > > Kunzima mpela > > Ndima > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Comrades >> >> Some of us wonder as to for how long will this infighting continue? >> Social networks you speak peace and unity for PAC, but your actions towards >> each other is as such that you treat each other with vile as enemies. The >> earlier you wake and realise that sice May until to date more damage has >> been caused across the entire PAC. This blame game must come to an end, we >> are surely less impressed by your conduct, actually the amount of damaged >> caused, divisions sown and pain inflicted among PAC members and structures >> to date under your collective leadership has never been seen in our >> lifetime. >> >> The earlier you realise that PAC is operating without a constitutional >> and functional National Executive Council the better, it seems you are now >> smelling coffee. None of you can claim to legitimately represent NEC >> because both 11th and 18th May 2013 meetings divided PAC NEC. >> >> Some of you have sufficiently blamed Cde Letlapa Mphahlele while others >> have blame Cde Narius Moloto for all the current conditions of PAC, >> actually you are hiding yourselves behind these two comrades, the sooner >> PAC branches and members see through all you and start to denounce for your >> deceit maybe this will assist. Two people cannot be wholly liable for the >> destruction of PAC, you are collaborators and shareholders in this >> destruction of PAC. A polictail case been made against Cde Letlapa >> Mphahlele and Cde Narius Moloto, now the remainder NEC members should take >> full responsibility and accountability for the political destruction >> taking place in PAC. >> >> The image of PAC publicly is damaged and as PAC we have become a laughing >> stock or should I say a mocker. 2014 national elections poor performance of >> PAC will you take full responsibility. Its illogical to claim that you are >> rescuing PAC from harm whilst you suffocate and inflict the very same PAC. >> M'Afrika, you have done enough damage, its enough you have proven your >> point. PAC branches and members deserves a state of sanity, PAC members are >> sick and tired about all this amorphous mess, Kwanele majoni-it's enough, >> what else are you proving? Because through your collective acts PAC is >> organisationally and politically is lifeless as matters stand, it must be >> revived, you are just finishing the remaining parts and semblance of PAC. >> Kwanele M'Afrika. >> >> Shango lashu >> Nkrumah >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: 17 October 2013 03:19 PM >> To: Apa Pooe; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Mzwandile >> Montjane >> Subject: RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng >> >> WE ARE TAKING PAC NOWHERE. LETLAPA IS A FACTOR HERE AND AS HONEST >> REVOLUTIONARY CADRES WE MUST JUST ADVICE HIM TO ACCEPT HIS FATE SO THAT THE >> PAC CAN MOVE FORWARD. AS FOR OTHER THINGS WE WILL FIX INTERNALLY. MY TAKE >> IS WE SHOULD BOW DOWN AND REQUEST A UNITY MEETING SO THAT WE START >> ENGAGEMETS ON A FORMAL LEVEL TO NORMALISE PAC. AS FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT >> HE MUST LODGE AN APPEAL TO THE NEC. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Apa Pooe [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 2:18 PM >> To: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Mzwandile >> Montjane >> Subject: Re: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng >> Importance: Low >> >> Revolutionary Greetings, >> >> >> Comrade Nyontso, I understand your anger but the unfortunate or fortunate >> thing is that some of these comrades who disrespect the President are NEC >> members themselves and excluding them will be tantamount to disrespecting >> the outcome of the PAC national congress. So much as they do the opposite >> we need not lower ourselves to their level. They always talk of the >> individual but we know as the matter of fact that they are the one who >> worship and are directed by an individual, so much as pointing a finger >> without realising that most fingers are pointing at you. >> >> As for the NEC no amount of fabrication will ever justify the meeting of >> 11th May 2013 as an NEC meeting and people may shout till their faces are >> red. Ask why is their master refusing that the NEC should be reconstituted >> as elected in the last congress? What does he fear if indeed he is >> supported by NEC? We may wish to be delusional and expect to be respected >> without respecting others and sink together or rise to the truth. As for >> the court outcome, one is amazed that the very comrades seems to think that >> an appeal has an effect of setting aside a court order or the court was >> meant to decide who is the leader of PAC. >> Contrary members have decided in the elective congress that Mr Letlapa >> Mphahlele is the President till next elective congress in terms of PAC >> Constitution. >> >> Izwe-Lethu, >> >> APA POOE >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za >> >> Great Homeware Deals! 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