Izwe Lethu Cde Frazer
The sooner we realise and accept the PAC is divided and has serious problems which effectively undermines smooth function and operations of the PAC the better. And resolution of PAC Problems can and will only be resolved by PAC branches and members, objective and matured and selfless leadership approach is essential. It self-contradictory, to demand that PAC structures to focus and plan for 2014 national neo-colonial bourgeoisie election when divisions occurring in the NEC are furthermore cascaded to lower party structures consequently there are parallel structures almost the entire country such as two APLAMVA’s and two PAYCOs etc, while there is a high court case seemingly you subject PAC Branches and Members to await the outcomes. Collective-Self-Deception and harbouring of illusions id dangerous, and tends to lead to self-destruction. No court will resolve PAC political problems, any High Court Judge does not rule on inner political issues. Shango lashu Nkrumah From: frazer smith [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 October 2013 06:49 AM To: [email protected]; Tongogara Ndima Cc: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele; Apa Pooe; [email protected]; justice mvakali; Alton Mphethi; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; eddie mfulwane; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Andiswa Mjali; [email protected]; [email protected]; david mabitsela; [email protected]; Malinge Plaatjie; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Adelaide Mulaudzi; [email protected]; Lehlohonolo Shale; [email protected]; [email protected]; Sibusiso Xaba; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; APLAMVA LIMPOMPO; [email protected]; [email protected]; Luyanda Gwina; [email protected]; Kutie Thondlana; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Lehlogonolo Digashu; [email protected]; Danny Monareng; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Lerato Lephatsa; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Ikey Isaacs; [email protected]; Gordon MPinie; [email protected]; Vusi8 .; [email protected]; Xola Tyamzashe; Jabu Makhanya; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; vakele mkandawire; Mzwandile Montjane; Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi Subject: Re: [PAYCO] RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng Izwe Lethu Ma Afrika We all need to back and re-study Pan Africanism and the ideology of the PAC and for what we stand for and we fought for the liberation. Ma Afrika let us not loose focus in the coming elections. Once all us failed to give leadership this Organisation. I am seek and tired when I open my mails that we accuse and threaten our own PAC members and we all forget who is the enemy. Let us not always speak of Letlapa as President when we all no there is a court case on the matter. PAC is not owned by anyone let us not loose focus. Let us approach discussion on philosophical understanding. My apology is that people who did not study political science always falls in criticising others. Tomorrow if Letlapa wakes up and say I resign you will be still saying Letlapa for President. The history of this Organization is rich and I being noting that there are who joined the PAC for wrong reasons. If people don't response we you ar e expecting to do so that not possible Mo Africa the reason people respond depends on the interest of the topic. I hope people who participate in the PAC discussion need to be clear and relevant don't speak for any one including the President as if the president is immortal. No Press can destroy us And Press can Build Izwe Lethu On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:05:54 +0200 Tongogara Ndima <[email protected]> wrote Comrade Nkrumah The angle you brought is interesting, it is true that some or most PAC NEC members are hiding themselves by posing as supporting or being against Cde President Letlapa Mphahlele and Cde GS Moloto. I thought we will hear NEC members speaking with one voice as a united PAC but we are not seeing this, maybe these comrades think they are fooling all of us, where is Cde Justice Mvakali, Cde Mohlomphegi and Cde Nofuma, these comrades used to travel all over the country mobilising members and branches against Cde Letlapa Mphahlele as President. Muendana and others are appointed into the NEC without following the constitution, now they are nowhere to give us feedback since PAC is falling apart. Let us not forget that some once declaredAPLAMVA as a non-profit organisation not belonging to PAC, after their plans falling apart because Plaatjie's PAMfailed to secure a seat in parliament they came back to PAC through the back door attackingCde Letlapa or destroying PAC! Kunzima mpela Ndima On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi <[email protected]> wrote: Comrades Some of us wonder as to for how long will this infighting continue? Social networks you speak peace and unity for PAC, but your actions towards each other is as such that you treat each other with vile as enemies. The earlier you wake and realise that sice May until to date more damage has been caused across the entire PAC. This blame game must come to an end, we are surely less impressed by your conduct, actually the amount of damaged caused, divisions sown and pain inflicted among PAC members and structures to date under your collective leadership has never been seen in our lifetime. The earlier you realise that PAC is operating without a constitutional and functional National Executive Council the better, it seems you are now smelling coffee. None of you can claim to legitimately represent NEC because both 11th and 18th May 2013 mee tings divided PAC NEC. Some of you have sufficiently blamed Cde Letlapa Mphahlele while others have blame Cde Narius Moloto for all the current conditions of PAC, actually you are hiding yourselves behind these two comrades, the sooner PAC branches and members see through all you and start to denounce for your deceit maybe this will assist. Two people cannot be wholly liable for the destruction of PAC, you are collaborators and shareholders in this destruction of PAC. A polictail case been made against Cde Letlapa Mphahlele and Cde Narius Moloto, now the remainder NEC members should take full responsibility and accountability for the political destruction taking place in PAC. The image of PAC publicly is damaged and as PAC we have become a laughing stock or should I say a mocker. 2014 national elections poor performance of PAC will you take full responsibility. Its illogical to claim that you are rescuing PAC from harm whilst you suffocate and infli ct the very same PAC. M'Afrika, you have done enough damage, its enough you have proven your point. PAC branches and members deserves a state of sanity, PAC members are sick and tired about all this amorphous mess, Kwanele majoni-it's enough, what else are you proving? Because through your collective acts PAC is organisationally and politically is lifeless as matters stand, it must be revived, you are just finishing the remaining parts and semblance of PAC. Kwanele M'Afrika. Shango lashu Nkrumah -----Original Message----- From: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 17 October 2013 03:19 PM To: Apa Pooe; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; info@b ataufc.com <mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; mabitseladavid@gm ail.com <mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] <mailto:phillipdhlamin%[email protected]> ; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] ; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] <mailto:jabumakhanya@yahoo.%20com> ; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Mzwandile Montjane Subject: RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng WE ARE TAKING PAC NOWHERE. LETLAPA IS A FACTOR HERE AND AS HONEST REVOLUTIONARY CADRES WE MUST JUST ADVICE HIM TO ACCEPT HIS FATE SO THAT THE PAC CAN MOVE FORWARD. AS FOR OTHER THINGS WE WILL FIX INTERNALLY. MY TAKE IS WE SHOULD BOW DOWN AND REQUEST A UNITY MEETING SO THAT WE START ENGAGEMETS ON A FORMAL LEVEL TO NORMALISE PAC. AS FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT HE MUST LODGE AN APPEAL TO THE NEC. -----Original Message----- From: Apa Pooe [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 2:18 PM To: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; lennox.ma [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; pa [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] <mailto:sibekowilliam@%20yahoo.com> ; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Mzwandile Montjane Subject: Re: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng Importance: Low Revolutionary Greetings, Comrade Nyontso, I understand your anger but the unfortunate or fortunate thing is that some of these comrades who disrespect the President are NEC members themselves and excluding them will be tantamount to disrespecting the outcome of the PAC national congress. So much as they do the opposite we need not lower ourselves to their level. They always talk of the individual but we know as the matter of fact that they are the one who worship and are directed by an individual, so much as pointing a finger without realising that most fingers are pointing at you. As for the NEC no amount of fabrication will ever justify the meeting of 11th May 2013 as an NEC meeting and people may shout till their faces are red. Ask why is their master refusing that the NEC should be reconstituted as elected in the last congress? What does he fear if indeed he is supported by NEC? We may wish to be delusional and expect to be respected without respecting others and sink together or rise to the truth. As for the court outcome, one is amazed that the very comrades seems to think that an appeal has an effect of setting aside a court order or the court was meant to decide who is the leader of PAC. Contrary members have decided in the elective congress that Mr Let lapa Mphahlele is the President till next elective congress in terms of PAC Constitution. Izwe-Lethu, APA POOE ____________________________________________________________ South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za Great Homeware Deals! 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