On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:48 AM, frazer smith <frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za>wrote:
> Izwe Lethu Ma Afrika > > We all need to back and re-study Pan Africanism and the ideology of the > PAC and for what we stand for and we fought for the liberation. > > Ma Afrika let us not loose focus in the coming elections. Once all us > failed to give leadership this Organisation. I am seek and tired when I > open my mails that we accuse and threaten our own PAC members and we all > forget who is the enemy. > > Let us not always speak of Letlapa as President when we all no there is a > court case on the matter. PAC is not owned by anyone let us not loose focus. > > Let us approach discussion on philosophical understanding. My apology is > that people who did not study political science always falls in criticising > others. Tomorrow if Letlapa wakes up and say I resign you will be still > saying Letlapa for President. The history of this Organization is rich and > I being noting that there are who joined the PAC for wrong reasons. If > people don't response we you ar e expecting to do so that not possible Mo > Africa the reason people respond depends on the interest of the topic. > > I hope people who participate in the PAC discussion need to be clear and > relevant don't speak for any one including the President as if the > president is immortal. No Press can destroy us And Press can Build > > Izwe Lethu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 14:05:54 +0200 Tongogara Ndima < > ndimatongog...@gmail.com> wrote > > Comrade Nkrumah > > The angle you brought is interesting, it is true that some or most PAC NEC > members are hiding themselves by posing as supporting or being against Cde > President Letlapa Mphahlele and Cde GS Moloto. I thought we will hear NEC > members speaking with one voice as a united PAC but we are not seeing this, > maybe these comrades think they are fooling all of us, where is Cde Justice > Mvakali, Cde Mohlomphegi and Cde Nofuma, these comrades used to travel all > over the country mobilising members and branches against Cde Letlapa > Mphahlele as President. Muendana and others are appointed into the NEC > without following the constitution, now they are nowhere to give us > feedback since PAC is falling apart. Let us not forget that some once > declaredAPLAMVA as a non-profit organisation not belonging to PAC, after > their plans falling apart because Plaatjie's PAMfailed to secure a seat in > parliament they came back to PAC through the back door attackingCde Letlapa > or destroying PAC! > > > Kunzima mpela > > Ndima > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi < > nrkgag...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Comrades >> >> Some of us wonder as to for how long will this infighting continue? >> Social networks you speak peace and unity for PAC, but your actions towards >> each other is as such that you treat each other with vile as enemies. The >> earlier you wake and realise that sice May until to date more damage has >> been caused across the entire PAC. This blame game must come to an end, we >> are surely less impressed by your conduct, actually the amount of damaged >> caused, divisions sown and pain inflicted among PAC members and structures >> to date under your collective leadership has never been seen in our >> lifetime. >> >> The earlier you realise that PAC is operating without a constitutional >> and functional National Executive Council the better, it seems you are now >> smelling coffee. None of you can claim to legitimately represent NEC >> because both 11th and 18th May 2013 mee tings divided PAC NEC. >> >> >> Some of you have sufficiently blamed Cde Letlapa Mphahlele while others >> have blame Cde Narius Moloto for all the current conditions of PAC, >> actually you are hiding yourselves behind these two comrades, the sooner >> PAC branches and members see through all you and start to denounce for your >> deceit maybe this will assist. Two people cannot be wholly liable for the >> destruction of PAC, you are collaborators and shareholders in this >> destruction of PAC. A polictail case been made against Cde Letlapa >> Mphahlele and Cde Narius Moloto, now the remainder NEC members should take >> full responsibility and accountability for the political destruction taking >> place in PAC. >> >> The image of PAC publicly is damaged and as PAC we have become a laughing >> stock or should I say a mocker. 2014 national elections poor performance of >> PAC will you take full responsibility. Its illogical to claim that you are >> rescuing PAC from harm whilst you suffocate and infli ct the very same PAC. >> M'Afrika, you have done enough damage, its enough you have proven your >> point. PAC branches and members deserves a state of sanity, PAC members are >> sick and tired about all this amorphous mess, Kwanele majoni-it's enough, >> what else are you proving? Because through your collective acts PAC is >> organisationally and politically is lifeless as matters stand, it must be >> revived, you are just finishing the remaining parts and semblance of PAC. >> Kwanele M'Afrika. >> >> >> Shango lashu >> Nkrumah >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele [mailto:mphah...@eskom.co.za] >> Sent: 17 October 2013 03:19 PM >> To: Apa Pooe; anwar.ad...@capetown.gov.za; mvakalijust...@gmail.com; >> frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za; info@b ataufc.com <i...@bataufc.com>; >> d...@pac.org.za; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; isa...@diplomatsa.co.za; >> paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; >> rateb...@webmail.co.za; smiz...@hotmail.com; smollozo...@gmail.com; >> bassiekam...@facebook.com; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; rako...@tut.ac.za; >> mja...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; bulang...@gmail.com; mabitseladavid@gm >> ail.com <mabitselada...@gmail.com>; emadzu...@yahoo.com; >> malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com; >> patrick.khum...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; milesndl...@yahoo.com; >> takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tamulau...@hotmail.com; >> angwa...@webmail.co.za; lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com; >> lennox.maqw...@gmail.com; leon...@mpi.metropolitan.co.za; >> sibusiso.x...@gmail.com; tob...@yahoo.com; >> phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com<phillipdhlami...@yahoo.com>; >> phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; aplamval...@gmail.com; >> aplamvanatio...@gmail.com; kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za; >> luyand...@gmail.com; jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com; >> kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za; kub...@telkomsa.net; vumilemof...@yahoo.com; >> payco@googlegroups.com; samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; >> baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za; hoteli...@iburst.co.za; headoff...@sacwu.org.za; >> mnyhon...@yahoo.com; nrkgag...@gmail.com; maiv...@pac.org.za; >> digashuma...@gmail.com; samrad...@upd.co.za; dannymonar...@gmail.com; >> khoi.so...@gmail.com; a...@a-aprp-gc.org; a...@joburg.org.za; >> drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com; victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za; >> ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; mphash...@webmail.co.za; ckoms...@yahoo.com ; >> leratolepha...@ymail.com; ju-...@webmail.co.za; >> solomoncontrac...@gmail.com; nancykob...@webmail.co.za; >> znd...@hotmail.com; crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; >> ikeyisa...@gmail.com; oscarfelit...@gmail.com; gordon.mpi...@gmail.com; >> sibekowill...@yahoo.com; vemahla...@gmail.com; rakwe...@yahoo.com; >> tyamza...@yahoo.com; jabumakha...@yahoo.com <jabumakhanya@yahoo.+com>; >> yolisamazo...@gmail.com; rmse...@gmail.com; ad...@pac.org.za; >> mvak...@gmail.com; Mzwandile Montjane >> Subject: RE: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng >> >> WE ARE TAKING PAC NOWHERE. LETLAPA IS A FACTOR HERE AND AS HONEST >> REVOLUTIONARY CADRES WE MUST JUST ADVICE HIM TO ACCEPT HIS FATE SO THAT THE >> PAC CAN MOVE FORWARD. AS FOR OTHER THINGS WE WILL FIX INTERNALLY. MY TAKE >> IS WE SHOULD BOW DOWN AND REQUEST A UNITY MEETING SO THAT WE START >> ENGAGEMETS ON A FORMAL LEVEL TO NORMALISE PAC. AS FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT >> HE MUST LODGE AN APPEAL TO THE NEC. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Apa Pooe [mailto:apap...@webmail.co.za] >> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 2:18 PM >> To: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele; anwar.ad...@capetown.gov.za; >> mvakalijust...@gmail.com; frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za; i...@bataufc.com; >> d...@pac.org.za; bennet_j...@yahoo.com; isa...@diplomatsa.co.za; >> paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; rammymfulw...@gmail.com; >> rateb...@webmail.co.za; smiz...@hotmail.com; smollozo...@gmail.com; >> bassiekam...@facebook.com; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; rako...@tut.ac.za; >> mja...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com; bulang...@gmail.com; >> mabitselada...@gmail.com; emadzu...@yahoo.com; malingeplaat...@yahoo.com; >> makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com; patrick.khum...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; >> milesndl...@yahoo.com; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tamulau...@hotmail.com; >> angwa...@webmail.co.za; lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com; lennox.ma >> qw...@gmail.com <lennox.maqw...@gmail.com>; >> leon...@mpi.metropolitan.co.za; sibusiso.x...@gmail.com; tob...@yahoo.com; >> phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com; phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za; >> aplamval...@gmail.com; aplamvanatio...@gmail.com; >> kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za; luyand...@gmail.com; >> jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com; kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za; >> kub...@telkomsa.net; vumilemof...@yahoo.com; pa >> y...@googlegroups.com<payco@googlegroups.com>; >> samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za; >> hoteli...@iburst.co.za; headoff...@sacwu.org.za; mnyhon...@yahoo.com; >> nrkgag...@gmail.com; maiv...@pac.org.za; digashuma...@gmail.com; >> samrad...@upd.co.za; dannymonar...@gmail.com; khoi.so...@gmail.com; >> a...@a-aprp-gc.org; a...@joburg.org.za; drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com; >> victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; >> mphash...@webmail.co.za; ckoms...@yahoo.com; leratolepha...@ymail.com; >> ju-...@webmail.co.za; solomoncontrac...@gmail.com; >> nancykob...@webmail.co.za; znd...@hotmail.com; >> crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; ikeyisa...@gmail.com; >> oscarfelit...@gmail.com; gordon.mpi...@gmail.com; >> sibekowill...@yahoo.com<sibekowilliam@+yahoo.com>; >> vemahla...@gmail.com; rakwe...@yahoo.com; tyamza...@yahoo.com; >> jabumakha...@yahoo.com; yolisamazo...@gmail.com; rmse...@gmail.com; >> ad...@pac.org.za; mvak...@gmail.com; Mzwandile Montjane >> Subject: Re: Memo on memorial lecture of Uncle Zeph Mothopeng >> Importance: Low >> >> Revolutionary Greetings, >> >> >> Comrade Nyontso, I understand your anger but the unfortunate or fortunate >> thing is that some of these comrades who disrespect the President are NEC >> members themselves and excluding them will be tantamount to disrespecting >> the outcome of the PAC national congress. So much as they do the opposite >> we need not lower ourselves to their level. They always talk of the >> individual but we know as the matter of fact that they are the one who >> worship and are directed by an individual, so much as pointing a finger >> without realising that most fingers are pointing at you. >> >> As for the NEC no amount of fabrication will ever justify the meeting of >> 11th May 2013 as an NEC meeting and people may shout till their faces are >> red. Ask why is their master refusing that the NEC should be reconstituted >> as elected in the last congress? What does he fear if indeed he is >> supported by NEC? We may wish to be delusional and expect to be respected >> without respecting others and sink together or rise to the truth. As for >> the court outcome, one is amazed that the very comrades seems to think that >> an appeal has an effect of setting aside a court order or the court was >> meant to decide who is the leader of PAC. >> Contrary members have decided in the elective congress that Mr Let lapa >> Mphahlele is the President till next elective congress in terms of PAC >> Constitution. >> >> >> Izwe-Lethu, >> >> APA POOE >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za >> >> Great Homeware Deals! 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