Hi Tim this is great.  I do use Window Eyes but when I tried this, I
used Jaws and only briefly tried it with Win Eyes as a non Win Eyes
user.  Now that I know a lot more about Win Eyes, I'll try it again with
Win eyes.

Thanks!

Marlaina Lieberg

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Grady
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:59 PM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody


Well, what I had was 2.1 build 0.215 but I did a check for update and
got 2.1 build 0.227.  It appears to be as accessible, but you have to do
a few tricks.  For instance, if you want to search for a song and you
haven't labeled graphics, and just let me say I'm speaking in
Window-eyes terms as I don't own JFW, you would use your virtual mouse,
go to the bottom of the window, move up by line until something is
spoken (by that I mean
non-graphic) and left click on it.  You're then put in a browser window
which you can navigate like normal.  If you find what you want and save
the album or track to your library you will be put back in to the first
screen. The thing about the first window is you initiate everything with
the mouse. Let's say you want to pick something out of your library.
First you would find your library list with the mouse keys.  Then you
would left click on any artist.  After that you can use your regular
arrow keys.  You are in a tree view like Windows Explorer.  Moving up
and down moves through the artists.  When you're on the artist you want,
hit your right arrow twice and you'll be on the list of albums of the
artist you selected.  If you haven't saved any albums then you'll be on
a list of tracks by that artist.  If you want to add the album or track
to the play list, route your mouse to the pc cursor and do a right
click.  There'll be a list of things you can do which you navigate with
the mouse keys.  When you get to what you want, say, play now, just left
click on it.  Your playlist window is below the library window.  I can
only get to it with the mouse keys.  You can tell when you get to it
because you'll hear track, then you'll start hearing track names instead
of artists.  On any track in the playlist just right click and again
there'll be a list of things you can do with the track or the playlist.
Some things to remember, you need to find the CD burning graphic.  The
one to the left or above  it will put you back into playlist mode.  When
you're in playlist mode, anything you play will be added to the
playlist, so you should clear your playlist once in a while.  If you're
navigating a list of albums and hit the right arror twice you'll be in a
list of tracks for the album.  Use the left arrow just like Windows
Explorer to close the list.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marlaina Lieberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: inquiring about Rhapsody


> Tim, I could not agree with you more, and that was precisely what I 
> did in my five email which went unanswered.  I've worked with many 
> providers and helped them to achieve basic access, which usually 
> includes labeling of graphics, but these folks would not respond.  I'm

> hoping to hear which version you have that is accessible, cuz I'll go 
> get it immediately and snack on my words while I listen to the finest 
> audio I've ever heard on the web.
>
> Marlaina Lieberg
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:31 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody
>
>
> I wish the graphics were labeled but they may not even understand the 
> problem as a sighted person can look at the screen and see right away 
> what to do.  I think blind people need to remember this when they 
> write or call. They need to spend a little more time than they do 
> explaining what software vendors can do to address the problems of 
> blind people and not just shouting that a software package is 
> inaccessible.  As to inaccessibility, all one needs to do is have 
> someone with some sight sit down with them and label graphics.  Just 
> in case you haven't seen it, the graphics change a little depending on

> whether you're in playlist or cd burning mode.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Stuart Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody
>
>
> >     There are definitely some problems with Rhapsody.  The initial 
> > screen presents you with a selection of graphics which are all 
> > unlabeled. Finding the correct one can be challenging.  For example,

> > Graphic 800 brings up Rhapsody radio stations.  Once you get past 
> > the initial screen much of the content is accessible.  Rhapsody is a

> > large
>
> > library of music which can be searched & the quality is equal to 
> > that of a cd.  In order to make the service accessible,  the player 
> > graphics need to be labeled.  Rather than giving up on Rhapsody, I 
> > suggest that members of this list subscribe &
> then
> > start making phone calls to Real Networks customer service. If 50 
> > subscribers made 2 phone calls each week, the marketing department 
> > would certainly take notice. You may subscribe to Rhapsody at the 
> > following address. http://www.listen.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Susan Wojtecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:30 AM
> > Subject: inquiring about Rhapsody
> >
> >
> > > Hello listers,
> > > I apologize if this has been previously covered or is off topic 
> > > but was
> > not
> > > sure where else to post the question.
> > >
> > > The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's 
> > > experience with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want 
> > > to find out as
> much
> > as
> > > possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for 
> > > files
> to
> > > be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it 
> > > require an embedded player for this?  Are all links and functions 
> > > accessible with
> > JAWS?
> > > Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of 
> > > other garbage if I install it?  I assume there is a monthly cost 
> > > for
>
> > > using the service and then an additional fee for downloads, is 
> > > this correct? Finally, is the trial version fully functional and 
> > > what are
>
> > > the actual
> > costs
> > > per download or use?  Sorry for all the questions, but I found the
> website
> > > rather vague on a lot of these points.  I may think of other 
> > > things I'd
> > want
> > > to know but these are my biggest concerns at the moment.  Please 
> > > feel
> free
> > > to write me on or off list with your experiences.
> > >
> > > Susan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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