Ah, got it. I prefer doing my compressing in Gold Wave anyway, so I can
maximize teh volume or whatever else I want to do.
Bruce
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On Sat, 28 May 2005, Kevin Lloyd wrote:
Hi Bruce.
Can't speak for that program specifically but I would think the process is
standard for all rippers and encoders. As I mentioned in a previous post,
it's really a trade off of quality against speed. What else would that
feature be there fore? The following is an explanation from the CDEX
manual, not the most clear granted but I think you'll get the gist of it.
On-the-fly MP3 encoding (default value: on):
When enabled, tracks are recorded directly into the desired compressed
format (e.g. MP2/MP3) without having to store the entire file first to a WAV
file. However, with some configuration people have heard strange clicks in
the output file. Therefore, if this option is on, the file is first record
as a WAV file, which can be converted to the desired output format. The WAV
file is automatically deleted when the conversion has been completed.
DISABLE THIS OPTION IF YOU EXPERIENCE STRANGE CLICKS IN YOUR MP3 FILES.
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But don't most extraction process actually separate those processes
anyway? I really don't know the answer to this one, but I would have
thought that a program like Easy CD-DA Extractor would first rip the file
off the disk, then compress it, even if the user doesn't actually have to
perform both of these steps. Am I wrong?
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On Sat, 28 May 2005, Kevin Lloyd wrote:
Hi Daniel.
It's not that flaws at source can be fixed just because you've unchecked
the
"on the fly" checkbox. If there are flaws on the CD then they will
cause
issues whether you rip on the fly or not.
The point I'm not making very well is that by breaking down a complex
process involving the extraction and conversion of data from a spinning
disc, there are less chances of issues arising if the process is instead
broken down into a number of discreet steps. Specifically, separating
the
process of reading the disc to extract all audio information before any
conversion to MP3 is done using an encoder that is applying complex
algorithms to the data to assess what it thinks can be disregarded and
what
it thinks needs to be retained to fulfil high quality sound
reproduction.
Hope that's clearer.
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Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Kevin: On the fly, another question
kevin,
I don't quite understand. If you aren't offered the opportunity to
correct
an error yourself, then are you implying that somehow, during this two
step
process, errors from a damanged or flawed CD nonetheless do get
corrected
for before they're written to .mp3 from the image? Only without your
intercession? Is that it? Otherwise,I don't understand how the
two-step
process ensures that flaws in the audio CD source don't get written to
.mp3.
Is my question clearer now?
Thanks.
elps m isk e3tween
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Subject: Re: Kevin: On the fly, another question
No, it won't detect potential errors and allow you to stop, continue or
fix
in situ. By creating the image you are breaking down the tasks
associated
with ripping so that you extract in one step to your hard drive and
then
convert from there. When on the fly you extract and convert in a
single
step. It is for this reason alone that you are likely to have less
risk
of
imperfections when ripping to an image first.
Regards.
Kevin
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Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 4:31 PM
Subject: Kevin: On the fly, another question
Kevin,
Let's say I use the method of ripping that involves writing a file or
image
to disk and then ripping from that, the method you prefer for its
prudence.
Okay. So what if a CD I'm ripping tracks from turns out to have the
kinds
of flaws that elicit this "jitter" error report and mean that you'll
wind
up
with a messed-up .mp3 copy? In what way does this method actually
provide
protection? Does it stop the process at some point, notify you that
there's
a flaw, and offer the option to correct it by clicking on something?
Or
if
not that, what?
Thanks.
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