Ok, well I take my hat off to you for writing as allot of people just sit back and let others do the hard work but I can assure you from people I've spoken to that Itunes for Windows and accessability issues are indeed being worked on.
On 08/03/2007, at 3:49 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote: But see, that's the point, I have written to Apple several times requesting that they atempt to make their Windows version of iTunes more friendly to screenreader users, and to date I haven't seen much action. So, I have gotten to them and requested that some work be done. True, most people won't, but I did, and all I got back was a big fat nothing in response. At 10:31 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote: > I think that comment to be extremely unfair, Apple put out a Windows > version of Itunes for the simple reason that not everyone uses or > wants to use a Mac and people have the right to use or not to use > what they want and Apple like the rest of us recognises that 90% of > computer users out there use Windows so it makes good marketing sense > to have Itunes working on a Windows platform. > Now something I'm extremely curious about, why is it that people > using PC's and Windows like to spend there time whining whilst people > using Apple Macs seem to be concentrate on writing constructive > letters to people and trying to get accessability issues sorted out > <smile>. > > On 08/03/2007, at 2:55 AM, Chris Skarstad wrote: > > Here here Jeff, couldn't agree with you more man. I think Apple put > out their Windows version of iTunes mainly so that they could say > they have a Windows version out, and they could give a crap less > about accessibility. > Yell and scream about how great it is Mac users, you finally got what > you wanted. But I'm going to continue to hold Apple in contempt > until they produce a screenreader friendly version of iTunes. When I > say "screenreader friendly", I mean a version that does not require > the use of scripts or set files to work. Fat chance of that > happening...I'll believe it when it happens. > > > > > > At 09:24 AM 3/7/2007, you wrote: >> The proof is in the pudding. Apple still hasn't gotten Windows Vista >> support done let alone accessibility, so I am sure it is merely a >> priority >> for the Mac platform more then it is for the Windows platform. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> audio.org] >> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan >> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:55 AM >> To: PC audio discussion list. >> Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple >> >> Better accessability for Itunes is being worked on. I'm not making >> excuses >> for Apple but everything takes time and I'm sure that Windows users >> will end >> up with a totally accessible version of Itunes before too long, >> just be >> patient, can't say too much right now. >> Why do Apple users make a thing about how accessible Itunes is? >> Because quite simply its worth making a thing about, its taken a >> while but >> Itunes has turned overnight from something which wasn't all that >> accessible >> at all (more near to totally inaccessible) to something which is >> getting to >> the point of being near totally accessible so that in itself is >> worth making >> a thing about plus the fact that all the hard work and all the >> correspondence between Apple and Voiceover users finally paid off, >> we now >> have a commitment on behalf of Apple that further development will >> continue >> etc. >> >> On 08/03/2007, at 12:28 AM, Stephen Guerra wrote: >> >> It appears that those who are using Macs are giving praise to Apple >> where I >> as a Windows user still as most find that Itunes is still lacking. >> >> Seems like any hint of an Apple user makes them scream that the >> little >> tidbit that Apple does is golden, well, its not and they are not, >> (meaning >> Apple) are Golden Delicious. >> >> More like rotten Macintosh! >> >> >> >> Stephen A. Guerra >> Assistive Technology Specialist >> Independent Living Aids >> >> "Products for Your Active Independent Life!" >> >> 200 Robbins Lane >> Jericho, NY 11753 >> Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313 >> Fax: (516) 937-3906 >> >> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Skype: ILASteve >> Web Site: >> http://www.independentliving.com >> http://www.soundbytes.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> audio.org] >> On Behalf Of David Tanner >> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:15 AM >> To: PC audio discussion list. >> Subject: Re: Hats Off to Apple >> >> Why doesn't that surprise me??? >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:14 PM >> Subject: RE: Hats Off to Apple >> >> >> : Yes, I have tried iTunes 7.1 under windows, I wanted to try to have >> : an open mind and try it, and guess what? It is still just as >> : inaccessible as it was previously. So apple is still the lose, at >> : least under the windows platform. >> : and because Apple has made *absolutely* no efforts whatsoever in >> : making the windows version of iTunes more accessible, I can't >> support >> them. >> : >> : >> : >> : >> : >> : >> : >> : >> : At 01:54 PM 3/6/2007, you wrote: >> : >Has anyone tried it with windows >> : > >> : > >> : > >> : >Stephen A. Guerra >> : >Assistive Technology Specialist >> : >Independent Living Aids >> : > >> : >"Products for Your Active Independent Life!" >> : > >> : >200 Robbins Lane >> : >Jericho, NY 11753 >> : >Phone: (516) 937-1848-x313 >> : > Fax: (516) 937-3906 >> : > >> : >E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> : >Skype: ILASteve >> : >Web Site: >> : >http://www.independentliving.com >> : >http://www.soundbytes.com >> : > >> : > >> : >-----Original Message----- >> : >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> : >On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan >> : >Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:38 PM >> : >To: PC audio discussion list. >> : >Subject: Fwd: Hats Off to Apple >> : > >> : >Ok, here's the announcement about the new version of Itunes for >> Mac. >> : > >> : > >> : >Begin forwarded message: >> : > >> : > > Apple has truly done what some might consider impossible; on >> March 5, >> : > > 2007, Apple unveiled a long-awaited update to iTunes with >> support for >> : > > accessible clients such as VoiceOver. >> : > > >> : > > This comes nearly 22 months after the release of Mac OS X >> 10.4 which >> : > > introduced the VoiceOver screen reader. Since VoiceOver's >> : > > introduction, the VO user community has been very vocal about >> the >> : > > desire for an accessible iTunes. Apple has listened and >> delivered ... >> : > > at long last! >> : > > >> : > > While iTunes' accessibility is a far cry from perfect, it does >> : > > represent a significant step forward from what was possible >> before. >> : > > Users can browse their iTunes library, search and preview >> songs from >> : > > the iTunes Music Store, adjust song ratings, and much, much >> more. If >> : > > iTunes 7.1 is any indication, then we can expect >> improvements to >> : > > iTunes accessibility in future releases of the product. >> : > > >> : > > Everyone who appreciates the work Apple has done to bring >> forth the >> : > > accessible version of iTunes should E-mail >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and >> : > > thank them for their hard work. Many of us were quick to >> bash Apple >> : > > for not making iTunes 7 accessible. 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