I was waiting for someone to make that argument. If the public library system uses that, and I haven't found evidence yet that says most of them do, that's very nearly as ridiculous as the system BARD uses. That's escentially saying to consumers, "We don't trust you as far as we can throw you, but rather than restrict how and when you can play the books, we'd rather destroy them and replace them than take the chance someone might actually want to take longer than x days to listen to them. Something tells me that would do more damage to the library than any potential piracy might. But, leave it to the government to pick the option most likely to be laughed off. Never mind cracked in a week.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert doc Wright Sent: April 19, 2010 10:50 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing so, it sounds like you would prefer the NLS to use the same standards as the public library does with their overdrive books and build in a self-destruct feature so that you can no longer use the book after a set period of time? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Ventura" <[email protected]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:10 AM Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing > If I walk into my local public library and check out a book the > librarian doesn't tell me which room in my house I can or cannot read > the book in. However with BARD they restrict qualified persons as to > which player the must use. The government is buying tons of those new > digital players and someone is making tons of money building and > selling them to the government and someone in said government is > receiving "incentives" to continue this practice? So does anyone not > think it is all about money? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of James Homuth > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:01 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing > > BARD is under the misguided impression that, even after you download > your copy of a particular book, BARD still owns that copy. You have no > legal authority to do anything, considered legal or otherwise, with > that copy. > Not > only is that incorrect, but it's also even more restrictive than even > the most literally interpreted copyright law. Again, I'll use my > example of iTunes. You pay for a couple songs from iTunjes. They're > now yours. > Apple no > longer owns those copies. You can put them on your iWhatever, burn > them to a CD, do pretty much whatever you want with them. Not true > with BARD. And it's business models like that that convince people to > do things you would call stealing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell > Sent: April 18, 2010 11:51 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing > > but from Bard, which was your example, you don't have permission. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mitchell" <[email protected]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:43 AM > Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing > > >> That's absulootly rite, but after you qualify for the servis, and >> down > >> load >> the file you still don't return it so if this all rite then how is >> tom > or >> anyone who has someone's pramition to coppy a fyle then how is it >> steeling? >> Mitchell >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of James Homuth >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:37 AM >> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing >> >> Apple tried to do the exact same thing with their iTunes. They tried >> limitting exactly what type of player you could put their music etc >> on > in >> the same way BARD is. The reasons that didn't work are the exact same >> reasons BARD shouldn't be doing that either. If you get your hands on >> something, whether you have legal access to do so or not, you're >> going > to >> want to do whatever you want with that something. Either put it on a > CD, >> or >> copy it to something smaller than your Victor Reader, or any number >> of things. And if someone wants to burn that book to a CD, or do > something >> else >> with it that BARD has decided they're not allowed to, even though >> they > >> have >> legal access to it, people are just going to find less legal means to > do >> so. >> Rather than prop up and defend an out of date business model, people >> should be pushing companies like BARD to get caught up with the rest >> of the > world >> and actually give people a choice as to what to do with their >> acquisitions. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Ford Blackwell >> Sent: April 18, 2010 11:28 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing >> >> But with Bard, you're not permitted to share and you have to qualify > for >> their service by being blind and having a player that they authroize. >> There >> is a specific exception in the copyright law for Bard and Bookshare > type >> services. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "mitchell" <[email protected]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:17 AM >> Subject: RE: It's Still Stealing >> >> >>> I'm with you man, if it is steeling then why is it all rite to use >>> bard with the book players, because you are downloading the books. >>> Then you are not giving them back. Not a problem as far as I am >>> concerned. >>> Mitchell >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P >>> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:09 AM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: It's Still Stealing >>> >>> Ok, so you say, "it's still stealing." >>> Then you tell me, why are there still some websites that lets you >>> download music and audio books without having to pay anything for it? >>> Yes these sites still exist, and people are downloading music and >>> audio books without having to pay a dime for it. >>> Explain that one to me, if you can! >>> John. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Tom" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 6:49 AM >>> Subject: It's Still Stealing >>> >>> >>>> It's still stealing whether or not your boss gives you permission >>>> to copy it. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> ** Message From: DJ DOCTOR P ** >>>> >High Tom, >>>> >I don't do it unless my boss gives me the green light to >>>> do it. >>>> >If he says yes, then I do it. >>>> >But if he says no, then it doesn't happen. >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [email protected] >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [email protected] >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [email protected] >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [email protected] > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [email protected] > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [email protected] To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [email protected]
