I have already answered the question in my first post actually so no, the 
question wasn't ignored so I'll repeat what I've already said and I'll explain 
a a little further so as to avoid any further confusion <smile>.

Yes, by default a Mac can certainly capture and record sources without 
Voiceover interfering so in other words you can run your Screen reader without 
any fear of it conflicting with any incoming software streams.

The process of "Capturing" is known in the Mac world commonly as "Hijacking" 
but both terms pretty much mean the same thing.

I use a piece of software here called Audio Hijack Pro which pretty much does 
everything that Total Recorder does, only thing it won't do is edit audio files 
but it can be integrated with an audio editor on the mac.

You can "hijack" as many sources as you need at once and you can even "Mix" 
those sources together if you want to, this makes software such as Skype easy 
to monitor for example, I know people in call centres who use a Mac with Audio 
Hijack Pro and Skype, using some simple Apple scripts running with Audio Hijack 
Pro, they can monitor the call plus log information regarding the call, say 
date and time, length of call etc but I'm rambling.


On 19/09/2011, at 5:52 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:

> Since the response contained no answer to the simple question asked, I'll try 
> again. Also, remember the subject of this thread is:
> "recording sound without the screen reader coming through."
> With that in mind, can you record a stream on a Mac without recording 
> Voiceover, or do you need to use 2 sound cards?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <[email protected]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:25 AM
> Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?
> 
> 
>> Depends on how you look at it, from my own personal experience - and I 
>> expect 99% people to disagree with me as they've probably never laid a hand 
>> on a Mac let alone record audio/video on one - the Mac presents a far better 
>> alternative to recording all round than does the Windows PC these days and I 
>> won't bother arguing the why's and the wherefore's here but I will say that 
>> I've been using my Mac machines for 5 years and PC's for longer, I use both 
>> and both systems have good and bad points but if you're looking at audio? 
>> Well the Mac thrashes the PC quite frankly as far as accessible recording 
>> software goes and recording software that actually and successfully does 
>> what its designed to do.
>> 
>> As stated, its not the fault of the people at High Criteria, they've done 
>> their level best with Total Recorder and associated products and no doubt 
>> about it! Total Recorder is a fine piece of software, those who read the 
>> list will in fact know that Total Recorder is one of those tools I have in 
>> my Audio Toolbox when using a PC.
>> 
>> 
>> On 19/09/2011, at 4:12 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, that's a very expensive solution to a problem he could solve with a 
>>> $20 sound card. And I'll mention again, XP doesn't have these issues. But 
>>> just to be clear, you can record a stream, and still use Voiceover without 
>>> getting Voiceover in the recording. Is that right?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:11 AM
>>> Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Recording and Audio capture issues are some of the very reasons why I 
>>>> switched to a Mac for this sort of thing as the management of audio is far 
>>>> better, easier to capture sound from another piece of software, device etc.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 19/09/2011, at 3:08 PM, Dave Bahr wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> yeah that's what i figured. I have a plan, it's kinda crude but it will 
>>>>> work. I'm going to get the stream going and then the recorder, or the 
>>>>> reverse it really doesn't matter, then I'm going to exit my screen reader 
>>>>> and leave the stream recording, setting goldwave to record for 2 hours 
>>>>> and 3 minutes, the archived stream is 2 hours long. It's not ideal, i 
>>>>> know, because the quality isn't going to be perfect, but the music will 
>>>>> be there. The site I want to record from has changed their archiving 
>>>>> method from windows media .asx playlist files to what looks like an 
>>>>> embeded javascript player. I have firefox and so far haven't found 
>>>>> anything that can record an audio stream just in firefox. there's this 
>>>>> freecorder add on that I installed but it doesn't look accessible. any 
>>>>> thoughts on this? again, it's a crude plan but I don't know enough java, 
>>>>> I know no java programming, I just looked at the source of the page of 
>>>>> the media player.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave c. bahr
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/18/2011 10:04 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
>>>>>> In XP, this is very easy to do. But starting with Vista, and
>>>>>> continuing with 7, Microsoft screwed up the way Windows processes
>>>>>> sound so Total Recorder can no longer separate out the screen reader
>>>>>> from the stream you want to record. The only way is to use background
>>>>>> recording, which only works with some streams, or use one sound card
>>>>>> for your screen reader, and a 2nd sound card for recording. . -----
>>>>>> Original Message ----- From: "Dave Bahr" <[email protected]> To: "PC
>>>>>> Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday,
>>>>>> September 18, 2011 11:15 PM Subject: recording sound without the
>>>>>> screen reader coming through?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> > Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to
>>>>>> > record a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this
>>>>>> > internet radio stream that I want to record but when I select my
>>>>>> > soundcard it always just gets the reader and not the sound source I
>>>>>> > want, this is in total recorder. I can't find a way to do it,
>>>>>> > running windows 7 64 bit with demo of total recorder.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Dave c. bahr
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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