I don't have a Windows 7 computer. I just tried one out. However, I don't
think it's a case of not finding the setting. I think it's something that
simply can't be done in 7. According to High Criteria, (the makers of Total
Recorder), Windows 7 mixes all sound streams together, so Total Recorder
can't separate out what you want to record from everything else.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul (Pawel) Loba" <[email protected]>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?
Hi,
Have you ever tried to use "god mode" idea on your Windows 7 machine? I
found it useful to the degree for my needs. It is definitely easier to get
to a lot of configuration components of your operating system using this.
Hth,
Pawel.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Dave Scrimenti
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:49 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?
I have no problem with sound management in XP. But if Microsoft doesn't
fix
the problems it created in Vista and 7, I may switch to, or at least add a
Mac. I can't stick with XP forever. Although i know many people stuck with
OS 9 practically forever because there was no ProTools support in OS X. In
fact, no screen reader support at all in OS X for years and years. I don't
want to be in that same position with XP.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[email protected]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?
I have already answered the question in my first post actually so no,
the question wasn't ignored so I'll repeat what I've already said and
I'll explain a a little further so as to avoid any further confusion
<smile>.
Yes, by default a Mac can certainly capture and record sources without
Voiceover interfering so in other words you can run your Screen reader
without any fear of it conflicting with any incoming software streams.
The process of "Capturing" is known in the Mac world commonly as
"Hijacking" but both terms pretty much mean the same thing.
I use a piece of software here called Audio Hijack Pro which pretty
much does everything that Total Recorder does, only thing it won't do
is edit audio files but it can be integrated with an audio editor on the
mac.
You can "hijack" as many sources as you need at once and you can even
"Mix" those sources together if you want to, this makes software such
as Skype easy to monitor for example, I know people in call centres
who use a Mac with Audio Hijack Pro and Skype, using some simple Apple
scripts running with Audio Hijack Pro, they can monitor the call plus
log information regarding the call, say date and time, length of call
etc but I'm rambling.
On 19/09/2011, at 5:52 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
Since the response contained no answer to the simple question asked,
I'll try again. Also, remember the subject of this thread is:
"recording sound without the screen reader coming through."
With that in mind, can you record a stream on a Mac without recording
Voiceover, or do you need to use 2 sound cards?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 2:25 AM
Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?
Depends on how you look at it, from my own personal experience - and
I expect 99% people to disagree with me as they've probably never
laid a hand on a Mac let alone record audio/video on one - the Mac
presents a far better alternative to recording all round than does
the Windows PC these days and I won't bother arguing the why's and
the wherefore's here but I will say that I've been using my Mac
machines for 5 years and PC's for longer, I use both and both
systems have good and bad points but if you're looking at audio?
Well the Mac thrashes the PC quite frankly as far as accessible
recording software goes and recording software that actually and
successfully does what its designed to do.
As stated, its not the fault of the people at High Criteria, they've
done their level best with Total Recorder and associated products
and no doubt about it! Total Recorder is a fine piece of software,
those who read the list will in fact know that Total Recorder is one
of those tools I have in my Audio Toolbox when using a PC.
On 19/09/2011, at 4:12 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
Well, that's a very expensive solution to a problem he could solve
with a $20 sound card. And I'll mention again, XP doesn't have these
issues.
But just to be clear, you can record a stream, and still use
Voiceover without getting Voiceover in the recording. Is that right?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?
Recording and Audio capture issues are some of the very reasons
why I switched to a Mac for this sort of thing as the management
of audio is far better, easier to capture sound from another piece
of software, device etc.
On 19/09/2011, at 3:08 PM, Dave Bahr wrote:
yeah that's what i figured. I have a plan, it's kinda crude but
it will work. I'm going to get the stream going and then the
recorder, or the reverse it really doesn't matter, then I'm going
to exit my screen reader and leave the stream recording, setting
goldwave to record for 2 hours and 3 minutes, the archived stream
is 2 hours long. It's not ideal, i know, because the quality
isn't going to be perfect, but the music will be there. The site
I want to record from has changed their archiving method from
windows media .asx playlist files to what looks like an embeded
javascript player. I have firefox and so far haven't found
anything that can record an audio stream just in firefox. there's
this freecorder add on that I installed but it doesn't look
accessible. any thoughts on this? again, it's a crude plan but I
don't know enough java, I know no java programming, I just looked at
the source of the page of the media player.
Dave c. bahr
On 9/18/2011 10:04 PM, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
In XP, this is very easy to do. But starting with Vista, and
continuing with 7, Microsoft screwed up the way Windows
processes sound so Total Recorder can no longer separate out the
screen reader from the stream you want to record. The only way
is to use background recording, which only works with some
streams, or use one sound card for your screen reader, and a 2nd
sound card for recording. . ----- Original Message ----- From:
"Dave Bahr" <[email protected]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
<[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:15
PM Subject: recording sound without the screen reader coming
through?
> Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to
> record a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this
> internet radio stream that I want to record but when I select
> my soundcard it always just gets the reader and not the sound
> source I want, this is in total recorder. I can't find a way
> to do it, running windows 7 64 bit with demo of total
> recorder.
>
> --
>
>
> Dave c. bahr
>
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