I know you can do it in XP because I do it all the time. I'm quite certain you can do it in 7, but can't guide you as to the steps. I don't know about Windows sounds. Total Recorder turns them off by default, and I've always just left it that way since I don't need them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Bahr" <[email protected]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: recording sound without the screen reader coming through?


Yes, it just occured to me last night after I got that recording going that I could patch it through another soundcard, maybe. I tried patching my screen reader through my wireless headset, but it still got recorded by total recorder somehow. Now the defalt device was set to my internal soundcard, so I'm not sure if window-eyes was just being routed to my headset via the soundcard or not.

The main issue I'm concered about is that the stream is from within firefox. It's one of those annoying java-based media players that pop up when you click on the, listen, link, or similar. So I'm not sure if I can have that recording in firefox go through my external soundcard, yes I have an external and internal soundcards. The external is portable enough, just a usb deal from creative, that I can throw it in my backpack if necessary to carry with my laptop, I didn't have it with me yesterday. Anyway, I digress. the question is can I patch that firefox stream through my external and then get the screen reader still on the internal somehow? let me diagram it out.

screen reader is on original source, which equals internal soundcard,
audio needs to go to external soundcard, just the stream audio
screen reader needs to stay on internal soundcard then, preferably with other windows sounds.

the way I did it with recording and during the intro comment, exiting out of the screen reader did work, crude but effective. In fact it worked so well that goldwave kept recording for 8 hours instead of 2. oops, well I got rid of the excess.

anyway, sorry for the complexity of this, erm, I hope it's not that complex and its just my rendering of it that is complex and possibly overblown.
Dave c. bahr


On 9/19/2011 8:34 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
 Good point as Windows sounds are regarded as a software stream as far
 as Total Recorder is concerned thus the software has an option to
 "Mute" those sounds and this brings up yet another problem, if the
 computer is trying to warn you of something then you don't know about
 that warning if you rely on sound.

 As mentioned - if you don't use a Mac <smile> - then the best
 solution with your Windows PC is to have more than 1 sound device, I
 know of ways to send speech out one sound card but I don't think you
 can specify where the Windows sound is output can you? I guess you
 could use one sound card for "Windows Default" and work from there.


 On 20/09/2011, at 12:23 AM, Steve Jacobson wrote:

> Also keep in mind that screen readers are only part of the problem.
> One needs to consider Windows sounds as well. I've heard
> recordings that have the web page loading sounds mixed in as well
> as Windows warning sounds. There is a Windows sound scheme that
> turns off all Windows sounds.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Steve Jacobson
>
>
> On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:04:03 -0400, Dave Scrimenti wrote:
>
>> In XP, this is very easy to do. But starting with Vista, and
>> continuing with 7, Microsoft screwed up the way Windows processes
>> sound so Total Recorder can no longer separate out the screen
>> reader from the stream you want to record. The only way is to use
>> background recording, which only works with some streams, or use
>> one sound card for your screen reader, and a 2nd sound card for
>> recording. . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Bahr"
>> <[email protected]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List"
>> <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:15
>> PM Subject: recording sound without the screen reader coming
>> through?
>
>
>>> Hi, I know this has been asked before but is there any way to
>>> record a sound without hearing the screen reader? I have this
>>> internet radio stream that I want to record but when I select
>>> my soundcard it always just gets the reader and not the sound
>>> source I want, this is in total recorder. I can't find a way to
>>> do it, running windows 7 64 bit with demo of total recorder.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave c. bahr
>>>
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