Hi all,

I think "stateful PCE" is very interesting work and I would like to support 
this work move forward.

As Adrian pointed out that this I-D certainly sets out a case for a specific 
application, this I-D mainly focuses on the PCEP extensions for a specific 
application.

I would like to follow what Ramon said. 

We know that there were lots of arguments or doubts on stateful PCE when 
someone proposed to start stateful PCE (or related) work item before.

Therefore, I think we need to have a delicate document to describe the 
scenarios, applicability, requirements, and then identify the potential PCEP 
extensions requirements for stateful PCE. Lastly, we can have another protocol 
extensions document like this I-D to describe the PCEP extensions.

If the WG think that it is right time to adopt this draft, please count "yes" 
from me to support this adoption.


Thanks
 
Fatai


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ramon 
Casellas
Sent: 2012年2月3日 2:28
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Pce] Adopting draft-crabbe-pce-stateful-pce-02 as a PCE WG 
document

El 02/02/2012 9:14, JP Vasseur escribió:
> Dear all,
>
> This document has been presented twice and certainly still deserves more 
> discussion, but it seems that there is enough interest to poll the Working 
> Group
> for WG adoption. Please let us know by Feb 19th noon ET, whether you are in 
> favor/opposed of adopting draft-crabbe-pce-stateful-pce as a WG document.

Dear PCErs

I share Adrian's comments. The stateless PCE as a functional component 
of a control plane is well understood and I think that, in view of 
potential &  new use cases such as software defined networks/openflow 
and other control & management schemes, there is room to take the PCE a 
step further, not necessarily tied to a GMPLS control plane.

I cannot comment on the concrete, technical details of the draft itself 
yet, as I just read it globally (I plan to read it carefully when time 
permits, most surely before Paris).

To be clear, yes I support the adoption of the draft.

However, as a minor comment, the stateful PCE is briefly covered in 
RFC4655, and in more depth in sections 2-5 of crabbe's draft, but I 
wonder (I am really not sure myself) whether we would need to split it 
and consider first, a more detailed architecture, functional 
requirements/framework, use cases (i.e. no signaling, direct vertical 
configuration of the forwarding state) and architecture, and once agreed 
on those, propose protocol extensions.  Is the stateful PCE a wide 
enough topic to go this path? The draft seems to bundle a full solution 
:) -- I guess this is more an open question rather than a comment on the 
draft itself

Thanks
R.


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