Oscar (and others),

Your point is not clear to me. On the one hand, I understand you support having some work on stateful PCE, hence adding it to our charter. On the other hand, the current question is *not* on a charter update, but on adopting a particular I-D as a PCE WG document. Therefore, could elaborate on where you are standing? "Interesting solution, suited for some specific cases" or "by no means the basis of the stateful PCE"?

Moreover, be aware that tackling stateful PCE does not imply addressing the full stateful PCE problem space. Note that the proposed draft comes with a contained scope. Trying to widen our charter too much (e.g. Ramon mentioning "no signaling") is likely to face strong reluctance from the IESG.

Cheers,

Julien


Le 08/02/2012 11:47, Oscar González de Dios a écrit :
Hi all PCErs,

         I also support the work in draft-crabbe-pce-stateful-pce-02 and share 
the main concerns. Although I do support the work, I think we should start 
scoping the stateful PCE, looking at the architecture, application scenarios 
and use cases from a broad perspective, with many inputs from service 
providers, vendors and data center users (which are having more and more 
network needs). This draft is a very particular interesting solution, suited 
for some specific cases, but by no means the basis of the stateful PCE. 
Furthermore, it looks weird to have a WG stateful PCE document without being 
the stateful PCE in the charter.

         Thus, if everybody thinks that PCE is mature enough to start entering 
into more complex stuff, let's start building the basis of the stateful PCE. 
And then, have solutions for the different environments/use cases.

         Óscar

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