>>>  Yes, a crossover cable is the easiest, least expensive way to connect
>>>  two machines with built-in ethernet ports but then you do NOT need
>>>  and can NOT use a hub. That cable is only for direct connection
>>> without a hub.
>
>>Well, that's not entirely true. My hub has one port just for crossover
>>cables, in addition to 7 ports for patch cables, plus it has 10b2 and 10b5
>>ports. It's been a great hub and cost me $15 at ebay.
>
>The wiring of xover cable prevents it from
>working with a hub, apparently with the exception of the hub tafkar
>has found. The particular port on that hub must be wired to "correct"
>the reversed wiring of the xover cable. The only purpose I can see
>for that is that it allows someone to use an existing xover cable
>they own instead of having to purchase another straight thru RJ45. I
>have to wonder if it was manufactured that way  or if it was modified
>by someone. Seems like an odd benefit or selling point if
>manufactured that way. Who makes it??

It's for connecting hubs together - most hubs have one port 'switchable'
between the two (MDI/MDX) for this purpose.

>Joe, my  experiences with using a crossover RJ45 cable between an
>8500 and 9500 were not good either.Both computers are in the same
>room so a hub seemed completely unnecessary.  I finally got it to
>work after checking and rechecking all my settings and going through
>a ridiculous starting/restarting procedure until the two computers
>saw each other.

It _is_ in the timing, the Macs need to 'see' the network at the
appropriate moment or they don't load ethernet.

hth


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Brian



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