At 11:01 AM -0500 10/28/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Your computer is probably not seeing them because one is not terminated.
>Whatever drive is physically at the end of the ribbon cable (SCSI bus), must
>be terminated. The reason the end device is terminated, is to pull the
>voltage all the way to the end of the ribbon cable. If more than one device
>has termination, it can pull too much voltage and ruin the SCSI bus. If they
>are LVD drives then you will need LVD termination.


Excess termination draws too much current and while it won't ruin the 
bus it can corrupt the data.

Aside from the less common jumper configurations like spin-on-startup 
the usual jumpers you need to configure are for Termination, 
Termination power and Parity.  On the Mac you can generally leave 
parity off.  Newer drives tend to have a jumper for Termination 
Enable.  Older drives have termination resistor packs that have to be 
installed to terminate the bus.  Termination power is distinct from 
termination.  It determines where the power for the termination comes 
from.  On some drives it can be configured as follows:

1  Termination power from the drive
2  Termination power from the bus
3  Drive supplies termination power TO the bus

1 is the most common and is common for a drive in the computer.

2 is useful for an external drive.  It allows for the drive to be 
turned off without disrupting the bus.

3 is normally only needed when the computer doesn't supply 
termination power (some PowerBooks and the Mac Plus for example).

Usually the selections are designed for no jumpers in the standard 
configuration.  Thus SCSI ID0 is no jumpers.  But this isn't always 
the case so  check the drives documentation for specifically what the 
jumper does on and off.

>
>Second, each device on the ribbon cable (SCSI bus) must have a unique ID.
>Normally the boot drive will be ID 0 (no jumpers on ID0, ID1, ID2 or ID3).
>The CD rom drive is usually ID 3 which would be jumpers on ID0 & ID1. The
>computer is usually ID7, and there are no jumpers involved. You can get
>jumpers at your local computer store that deals with SCSI drives. The tab on
>the jumpers is so that you can get your itty bitty fingers on them.
>
>The ID jumper setup goes like this:
>SCSI ID#       Pin ID# (on drive)
>ID0               No jumpers
>ID1              Jumper on ID0
>ID2              Jumper on ID1
>ID3              Jumpers on  ID0 & ID1
>ID4              Jumper on ID2
>ID5              Jumpers on  ID0 & ID2
>ID6              Jumpers on  ID1 & ID2
>ID7              Jumpers on  ID0, ID1 &  ID2

This ID is reserved for the Mac (and most other hosts) so you would 
never want to use it.

>ID8 through ID15 is repeated but with a jumper on ID3 as well (you would use
>this only if you had a scsi card that recognized ID's 8 through 15)

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