>>> And that sums up the capabilities of Norton.  Pretty colors.  Makes you
>>> feel
>>> like you accomplished something when you didn't.  Meh.
>> 
>> Not always. My best example was an old Wallstreet Powerbook that took ages
>> to start up and was very unresponsive. Norton speed disk took around an hour
>> to shunt files around and afterwards it back to normal.
>> 
>> Fragmentation has to be very bad to notice a difference, and this example
>> was bad. Running speed disk when there's just a few percent fragmentation
>> makes no difference.
> 
> This proves my point.  There is nothing in the startup process that pertains
> to the disk condition or fragmentation in any way.  This is my point.  You
> are convinced that this has something to do with fragmentation.  I can
> detail the boot sequence in every mac..  It's in your head. >>
> 
> I would have to disagree. When you boot, I believe you read things off the
> hard drive, like the extensions, for example. Worst case scenerio: All the
> extensions and other files it needs to read during bootup, are spread all
> over the drive, and the files are split among sectors, one or more of the
> sectors are magnetically weak, which means the computer has to do multiple
> attempts before successfully reading said file. After defragmentation and
> optimization, each file is closest to the beginning of the disc, all located
> one right after the other physically, and each file is solid magnetically.
> Now, I would think that even going from worst to best, it would not be
> significantly faster. Noticibly, probably, but I wouldn't think it would even
> approach twice the time. In 20 years (since the Atari 400) time, I would have
> to say that I have seen my computers run quicker after defragging/optimizing
> time after time. However, I don't usually do this till after they're past
> moderately fragged.
> STeve
> 
That's when I see the most benefit, other than the rainbow.
Whenever my kids start complaining, "Dad, I hate this Mac!  Why can't we get
a PC like the other kids?  This thing is soooo slow."  I run the disk
doctor, then Norton Speed disk, (usually "severe" fragmentation)
then I rebuild the desktop.  Works for me!  I reserve Disk Warrior for
the really tough jobs, like when a disk isn't recognized at all.
Joe


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