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From: "E McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PCI PowerMacs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 4:22 AM
Subject: Worth it?


> OK, I love my 7600-mainboard-upgraded 7200. Trying to bum around the 'net
> with it, though, shows it needs a *bit* more horsepower.  Not to mention
> space. One way or another this thing's getting upgraded (when a bit more
> money comes in) but I have to decide how far is "worth it."
>
> As it sits right now (and will for a little while yet) it's at a 120 Mhz
> 603, 64 Mb RAM, 2 Mb VRAM, one 2 Gb and one 500 Mb hard disk, and OS 8.1
> (and Be, dual booting.)
>
> Option 1 is buying a good number of upgrades for the system - G3 or G4
> processor, RAM (of course,) IDE adaptor (for cheaper, large hard drives -
I
> don't recall, is there a *hardware* limit in these, an OS limit on
> partition size, or..?) and CD-RW, the hard drive, of course, and probably
a
> USB adaptor. 2 Mb more VRAM to max it out, and more system RAM, would
> finish up the upgrades.
>
> Option 2 is picking up a beige G3 and pushing *that* up farther. With IDE
> built in, newer (X-supported) video cards, and what looks like a cheaper
G4
> upgrade, it's tempting. If I went this route, the 7600 would *still* get a
> bit of a boost (to a 200 Mhz 604, and more RAM) but would probably end up
> running BeOS as a test web server, email box, etc. (Have you *ever* heard
> of a BeOS virus? Thus the email box. <g>)
>
> As it sits right now, even a low end G3 upgrade (which is also going to be
> low on cache, and the bottom end of the speed range) runs $99 list, at
> least form what I can. Add the prices for an IDE controller, the RAM, the
> hard disk, even $20-$25 for a basic USB card, and we're probably hitting
> close to $250-$300.
>
> Meanwhile, looking on eBay, beige G3s (I'd probably go for a tower) are
> sitting from $300-$400. If I went for a stripper (no HD or RAM) as is
> occasionally offered, it's cheaper - and I have hard drives that can be
> utilized, no problem. RAM's not exactly expensive, either. It would still
> need USB added, of course.
>
> Since it's reasonably close either way, I'm looking for opinions - which
> way do you think would be the best to go?
>
> -Eric
I would lean toward a beige G3 MT. Try to get a barebones one, and it should
be around $150.
+G4 Zifs have been as cheap as $100 (will they work with rev. A ROM? can
they use the original heat sink?),
+a CD/RW could be as little as $30,
+768MB of RAM for $90 (can you max out the RAM with a rev. A ROM?),
+a 30GB HD for less than $50,
+USB for around $20,
+Raytheon VRM for maybe $15,
+an 8MB video card for less than $50.

My suggestions still add up to a lot of money, but the steps you take to get
there aren't as expensive:
*for about $30 you get 256MB for a beige G3, or 128MB for a beige PowerMac
7600
*for about $50 you get a 30GB IDE HD, but on a 7600 it costs another $60 at
least to be able to use it.
*the G3 is a machine that can run OS X without need of XPostFacto, if that
interests you.




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