>Yes I did. I  pulled this out of an 8500. what will be  some other defining
>clues? I think the previous possessor may have been a tinkerer too, so it
>could be a 7x00 board. I need to know without firing it up. I dont want to
>build the whole wheel and disassemble it for this one point. (if I can get
>out of it).


     I've (much to my frustration) picked on an 8500 for the basis of a 
project and I'm having strange problems with it. The case was a barebones 
8200/120 PPC 601 model - no HD or cd or ram or pci but a strange cache 
chip - '7200 only DOS ok' - says the sticker????
     Stripped it completely and sprayed everything beige matt black
     Anyway, I got hold of a 8500 nitro mobo c/w 128 megs mixed ram, 4 
megs vram and 256 cache - guy even sent me the original 120 604 processor 
- and rebuilt the whole thing with the Nitro board. Took out the ram and 
put 1 x 128 meg edo 60ns chip in - put Matshita 24x cd in the top bay - 
kept the floppy in the second bay - 4 gig 80 pin UW Barracuda in bay 3 - 
4 gig UW Barracuda (terminated on the adapter) in bay four - getting 
those drives plugged almost resulted in 'lump hammer computer rage' - 
access to the bays is awful but I'm over it now....
     Booting from the cd I installed 9.1 on each of the Barracudas - then 
booted from the HD to discover that my display is split between multiscan 
(2 meg vram) and tv (2 meg vram) and try as I may I cannot get rid of the 
mirroring (pram,cuda,whodoo,voodoo,different proc even a G4/400). Left it 
to sit for a while....
     Bought an A/V panel from the honourable RA Cantrell last week - I 
really wanted to do audio on it - sprayed the beige panel black and 
fitted it no probs but back to the iffy setup again. Wiped and 
reformatted the HD in bay 3 and tried to install 9.1 - no luck - 'the 
installer does not recognise this machine' - tried the install in bits 
and got various errors like 'cannot find parts' etc but I got a bootable 
9.1 system on there eventually and started from it to find that ASP 
describes it as a 7600 and the vram is still mirroring - the right hand 
edge of the desktop is off screen (maybe out of the house) eventually got 
it back by zapping the pram but only for one reboot.
     So here's my questions - with the 8500 mobo and the original 
processor why doesn't ASP see it as an 8500? Where does ASP get it's info 
from and how can I alter it? There's a rom slot on the mobo - what fits 
in there? Is this really an 8500 Nitro board? Guru says 'Apple service 
sometimes replaces 8500 logic boards with Apple part 661-1754 - a 
remanufactured 7500 board. Part 661-1153 is the real 8500 replacement' 
and does not list an 8500 A/V model - why not?


     Pete




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