> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: best browser? > > At 10:18 AM +1000 08/27/2003, David Elmo wrote: > >> This comic page, at least the one you end up at has serious coding errors. >> > Yea. But nothing iCab can't handle. > I said my iCab had no trouble with it. It may be that the person having trouble was using a different version of iCab or his settings in iCab were not quite right, I was not ruling out that bad code was not a contributing factor.
>> IE allows for sloppy code, this is a much misunderstood strength. >> > *cough* *choke* *sputter* > Yeah OK! Coughing and spluttering do not an argument make though. To be fair, you outline one below and it is a view that people take, but not one I agree with in the slightest. > It is IE tolerating sloppy code that has created most of the standards > incompatibility problems on the web! > I don't know that this is the case. Or that loose code would not have been rampant had there not been MS. And I don't know if the web would have grown so fast and so vibrantly had every web designer been forced to be a goody two shoes. > The web standards don't permit this sloppy crud. And if everyone was forced > to write syntactically correct code, the browsers wouldn't have to guess at > how to render it! It's that guesswork that causes the problems! Depends on what you see as the problems. There was a programming language that I and other Mac mates used to love, called QuickBasic (yes, it was an MS product, this is besides my point though - or mostly so at least). You could bash away and have a program running in no time, performing useful tasks, calcs, whatever, without having to dot your eyes and cross your tees. Anyways, when the Powermacs came along this programme was unable to be used. The much stricter FutureBasic (not an MS product, they stopped developing QB for the Mac) was the way we went. It was a frustrating experience because it was like teacher was around then and would not let you get away with a thing (the more FB developed, the stricter it became, the "teacher" became a really bossy "headmaster"). I don't bash out programs for fun or otherwise so readily these days. Still do, but only when really really needed. Another example to illustrate: in bad chemical plant designs, some do not make enough room for operator errors and other contingencies. They are brittle and not so practically useful. My point is simply this: there is power in being accommodating, in allowing for sloppiness, in rolling with the facts. Since there are so many people making web sites and so few browsers, it is not to be dismissed that maybe it is the browsers that need to be accommodating. Strength can come from flexibility, weakness can come from an over rigidity. At the very least, I would say that in the early development of the web it has been a good thing to have a browser that allows code that does not conform strictly to various standards. >> At some stage it is wise to stop slugging at the banks and other web sites >> > Why? Since when do Mac users ever accept mediocrity? > > - Dan. Dan! There is a slight implication here that Mac users are superior moral beings. Is there any evidence for this? Don't even think of replying to this! Macs are much nicer than PCs, this is true. Guess I have gotten fed up of emailing my bank and other web sites about their code, it feels like pissing in the ocean to try to raise the level. Anyways, my main point is that a browser that allows for "sloppy" code is not necessarily mediocre. I say hail to the ship that can handle the rough seas... david_elmo -- PCI-PowerMacs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Sonnet & PowerLogix Upgrades - start at $169 | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> PCI-PowerMacs list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/pci-powermacs.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive:<http://www.mail-archive.com/pci-powermacs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
