on 2/4/04 1:48 PM, Bill's In th' House Connelly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> oops ... i entered this discussion without fully reading the intro ... --- No worries... I have a bad propencity to jump in without fully reading as well! > i was talking about scsi drive low-leveling ... my ata drives > (Seagate's) are different ... don't allow low-level formatting ... > zero'ing out does the trick about mapping out the bad sectors ... > apologies about not reading the original question more carefully ... > > gosh, we're up awfully early ... > > > On Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 06:30 AM, nathan wrote: > >> >> -- And you would be correct in that thought. After a bit more >> research on >> tomshardware.com, I've found that IDE/EIDE drives made after '98, will >> skip >> past the cyl/head/boot partition map when doing a lowlevel format. >> >> on 2/4/04 1:22 PM, David P at [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> wrote: >> >>> it does all that too. but IDE drives are a special case. mind you, i >>> think >>> IDE drives are intelligent enough to "fool" the software into >>> thinking it's >>> doing a low level format. it steps the heads and stuff just *i think* >>> doesn't acutally do any wrirting. >>> >>> ---------- >>>> From: Bill's In th' House Connelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "PCI PowerMacs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Subject: Re: Lowlevel format >>>> Date: Wed, Feb 04, 2004, 11:09 >>>> >>> >>>> I was under the impression that a low-level formatting causes the >>>> drive >>>> to "map out" its bad sectors, so that another program won't try to >>>> use >>>> them ... sort of makes them invisible ... >>>> >>>> maybe just repeating what others have said ... >>>> >>>> it does remove any possibility of recovering any data from previous >>>> usage ... which is what some people want, as well ... >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, February 4, 2004, at 04:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a message dated 2/4/04 12:56:41 AM, >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> writes: >>>>> >>>>> << >>>>> if you've got an IDE drive, you can kiss goodbye to all your data. >>>>> and >>>>> the >>>>> chance of >>>>> reusing the drive as a low level format erases EVERYTHING - >>>>> including >>>>> the >>>>> drive's own special software. >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Low level format is inhibited by those drives which cannot be >>>>> low-level >>>>> formatted. >>>>> >>>>> Just about every SCSI drive may be low-level formatted, and some >>>>> EIDE/UATA >>>>> drives can as well. But, most EIDE/UATA drives cannot. >>>>> >>>>> Low level format doesn't change the "factory defects", but it may >>>>> (and >>>>> should) change the "grown defects". >>>>> >>>>> Low level format doesn't change the unchangeable areas reserved for >>>>> drive >>>>> use, such as the spare cylinders and the maintenance cylinders >>>>> (where >>>>> special >>>>> indicators and/or firmware is often located). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PCI-PowerMacs is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... >>>>> >>>>> Small Dog Electronics http://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished >>>>> Drives | >>>>> -- Sonnet & PowerLogix Upgrades - start at $169 | & CDRWs on >>>>> Sale! >>>>> | >>>>> >>>>> Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> >>>>> >>>>> PCI-PowerMacs list info: >>>>> <http://lowendmac.com/lists/pci-powermacs.shtml> >>>>> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; >>>>> Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To unsubscribe, email: >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> For digest mode, email: >>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Archive:<http://www.mail-archive.com/pci- >>>>> powermacs%40mail.maclaunch.com/> >>>>> >>>>> Using a Mac? 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