At 06:18 PM 7/28/2002 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote the following:

>The idea crossed my mind due to a relevant post to another list.
>
>I think there should be a stricter policy regarding the list's archives.
>
>I have got a couple of spam messages due to my
>subscription in this list.
>
>I can understand that there has to be somewhere an archive of the list's
>messages but I think it could be password-protected so that spam-bots
>can't get access there.
>
>Furthermore, if we want to "promote" our list, we could make available
>a few sample posts with the e-mail information stripped off.

If you check with all the bulk e-mail programs, the e-mail addresses are 
harvested from USENET (far and away the largest source of addresses) 
seconded by web pages with mailto links. Getting addresses from mailing 
lists is now just to much work especially since LISTSERV (the largest 
mailing list manager) doesn't send e-mail addresses to people who request 
an index listing -- the method used in the past to obtain a list of e-mail 
addresses. The robots that travel the web use web pages and USENET postings.

I asked Marlene to add our list to mail-archive way back in 2000 or so just 
after a change in the mailing list hosting site lost about 6 months or so 
of our archives. There was a period of time when members were interested in 
answers to questions but because the archives weren't keep it was almost 
impossible to refer back to the previous methods that people had used to 
solve a particular problem. This was at a time when many of us were using 
registry "hacks" to maintain our Win 95.  I liked the idea that 
mail-archive would keep records forever so asked Marlene to add our mailing 
list to it.

To access a mailing list that is archived is just about impossible because 
most mailing lists require a confirmed e-mail address for the subscriber. 
Robots just don't work this way. For web-based archives like the 
mail-archive, the robot would have to access the archive and then select 
message by message. Most robots just select pages that are indexed. In 
addition, the mail archive also uses the meta tag  [META NAME="robots" 
CONTENT="noindex"].

I can guarantee that my e-mail address has been harvested from my web page 
and also USENET postings, not from mailing lists that I belong too and not 
from the mail-archive web site.


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Gerry Boyd
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