Yeah relaying is problem and many ISP's don't care about it.
Verizon may not have much relaying, but in my unfortunate
experiences with them, they are probably worse than Comcast,
and not much relaying doesn't say much since their OWN
customers are doing the attacks.  Especially their Bizmailsrvcs
division.  They bounce back all reporting emails and the emails
given for them in ALL look-ups are bogus.  The Bizmailsrvcs
division usually has the 4. IP prefix.  I've seen thousands of
complaints for the SAME IP address and SAME domains hosted by
them, and they do nothing.
-Clint

Happy New Year to all & God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://OrpheusComputing.com )

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Dougherty" <

I agree with Clint here.
A lot of junk mail I get is from APNI*C..if it's not, it is
from Comcast or AT&T(ATTBI). I am considering
blocking them to.
I suggest users if these ISP's contact them and let them know
how you feel about this.
One good thing about Earthlink, Verizon and the smaller ones,
they prevent relaying which I believe is
what allows these people to use their service for SP*A*M.

Jeff Dougherty
Intrepid Video TV/VCR

----- Original Message ----- 
OrpheusComputing.com"


Since it was Comcast, that is probably one of the reasons since
like I said they are the most criminal USA based ISP there is.
I'm sure they are some how scanning their members' emails that
are at this list for email addresses to sell to APNIC and
LACNIC.  Hotmail (and Yahoo) also give/sell their members'
addresses to spammers.  I know Linda is on Comcast and I didn't
know that until recently.  She had been emailing me and I could
not get her emails (or posts) since I was forced to block
millions of Comcast IP addresses.  The FTC REALLY needs to
prosecute Comcast.  Ben's ISP is also blocked, he's on the one
of the worse IP prefixes there is, (12.xx.xx of ATTBI I think
it was) and he has to send email to a private address of mine.
(I haven't left yet, I have couple of posts of my own still
pending and have to wait till their completion).
-Clint

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben Moore" <>

I'm wondering what's happening with the spam.  I had an email
this week from
a woman in NZ asking about a computer problem who said she got
my email
address from Ask Jeeves. I tried it but couldn't duplicate what
she did and
she couldn't remember exactly what she searched on.  I can find
mail
messages from our list on  Ask.com but the email addresses are
hidden.  From
Clint's description of his problems though, somehow addresses
are getting
out.

I wonder sometimes if ISP's or even the company that runs the
mailing list
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