Ah I see now why Jim's posts have been blocked, the poor soul
is on APNIC!  Too bad the good folks from Australia are on
APNIC.

The problem Jim, is my email addresses have nothing to do with
my ISP.  If they did, the UCE problem would be a thousand times
worse since my ISP BellSouth LOVES spam.  I was forced to route
my ISP email (which I only used for a backup and personal
matters since it was not filtered), through my domain server
due to the attacks upon it, and it was NEVER subscribed to
anything!  There are many ISP's that are now using UCE filters,
but that does nothing for THEIR OWN customers that are spamming
others.  AOL is one that comes to mind.  These jerks are
probably the most diligent at protecting THEIR customers, but
when it comes to one of their customers attacking OTHERS, they
BOUNCE BACK the complaints!!!!!  This is hypocritical ad
nauseum.

As far as my server filters, they are the best around since you
never have to see what it blocks, what is blocked is
"blackholed".  I at least like them best because I never have
to see them.  Some others won't like this since they want to
see if any good emails are blocked, yet during that "checking"
process they still have to see and look at the BS.  I can't
take that.  My choices are block UCE that has a filter for it,
along with possible good emails, yet stay healthier; or see the
few good emails that filters have blocked along with the 99% of
them being real UCE from the same slimeball scam and spam
supporting ISP's and webhosts and have a stroke over that.  The
choice was easy, yet of course unfortunately has some bad
results....your case being another example since you're on
APNIC.

I think I'm going to try www.sneakemail.com that Steve
suggested and give that shot for the list and only use it for
the list.  That way when some scum attacks it, I'll just cancel
it and get another.  I could do that with a domain address, but
since it would be domain address, they'd come up with other
possible valid email prefixes to also attack on that domain.  I
only hope it can be used with OE.  If not, that's not good.  I
see how it works now, it fwd's emails to your real address.
That would mean it would also be filtered unless I used a
non-filtered address, which I guess I could do since the
addresses are hidden.  It only has a 10mb monthly limit so I
don't know if that would be enough.  Well, that's not an
option.  The jerks don't say ANYTHING about not being able to
use the address as a regular address unless you pay!  In fact,
in the FAQ's it clearly stated what you CAN do, and this was
among them!  Not paying only gives you the option for a few
days!  Talk about "bait 'n switch"!
-Clint

Happy New Year to all & God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://OrpheusComputing.com )

[From the archives]
From: Jim Cladingboel
Subject: Re: PCWorks: Sp*am thanks to this list!!
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 22:00:19 -0800

---------------------------------------------------------------

Clint,

I sincerely hope you don't leave this List, your contributions
would be sorely missed.
 Here in Oz, I rarely get  more
than 2  sp*ms a week since my ISP, tpg.com.au, installed
filters for the first time -
and didn't charge for the process!
I use their lowest level of  filtering, so they must have a
really efficient/highly
cognitive system.  Obviously, you
can't use tpg, but surely a similarly efficient filter must be
available to ISP's in
the US of A?  I haven't had a
chance to check Google yet, but TPG is a fairly big ISP by Oz
standards and will
almost certainly have affiliations to
one or more IT companies in the US.  It could be worth some
investigation.
I'm in the same decade as Anne Parker, but am much more
intolerant!!  So the arrival
of tpg's filter system has been
really good for my blood pressure!
Very best wishes,

Jim, in sunny Brisbane, Oz.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Well this is unbelievable.  I just spent a #$!&@ WEEK
changing
> ALL of my email addresses, and deleting ALL of my previous
ones
> thanks to spamming scumbags.  Only a few days after changing
my
> email address for THIS LIST, I'm now getting SPAM on it!
This
> was a DEDICATED SPECIAL email address used ONLY for THIS
LIST,
> and now it's getting attacked!!  And it comes as NO SURPRISE
> it's "courtesy of" the criminal [EMAIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] at
Comcast (whom are
> as bad as the Chinese & the WORST USA ISP), with their LACNIC
> scum members whom they insist upon giving net access to!!  I
> cannot take this, my business cannot take it and my HEALTH
> cannot take it.  So, I'm unsubscribing, the hell with this
> crap.  Not that that's going to be a big deal to anyone, I'm
> just letting the list know that this list IS INDEED plagued
> with: 1. Parasites that belong to it; 2. The archives are
being
> "spambotted"; 2. Our addresses are getting sold; or any
> combination of the three.
>
> With the MOST AGGRESSIVE spam filters probably used by
ANYONE,
> with 900 filters and counting, it still cannot stop the
> attacks.  This is why I cannot see posts by numerous members
> here; your IP's are blocked due to your ISP's allowing
> spamming.
>
> If I must post something, I'll just have to ask some friends
of
> mine to post it and I'll have to watch the archives.  So
long!
> -Clint
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