>> Do you have anything from Symantec installed on your PC now? If so, >> that folder is for it. - -Clint

> But your question is interesting. How would one know if one has anything > *from* a "whatever name" installed on a PC? --- Harold

Well Harold if you don't know, then certainly know one else is going to know what you have installed. - -Clint

It's not that easy. My question above really referred to the pre-installed programs; how would I know which of them came from Symantec? Nothing that I personally downloaded came from the Symantec site. I even went there looking for their products to see if I'm using anything of theirs. Only thing familiar I noticed was Ad-aware mentioned but I think Ad-aware is manufactured by Lavasoft. With all nine Symantic folders/files still in the Recycle bin (easy to restore them to their original places), my Ad-aware was still able to update.

Other than my text format in OE (question will soon follow), the computer is working like a charm. And you'd be amazed how much junk I was able to fish out of Program Files, Windows, System32, and the Registry. An example: I have 19 pictures of mountain climbers, cyclists, parts of cities from all over the world, and the leaning tower of pizza, etc, in C:\windows\system32\oobe\images ... why are they there?

Some of the jpg's there seem to be important (arrows, backgrounds, splash screens ... these might be necessary for running the system) , pictures that seem to be for a tutorial might soon be deleted. Think of all the wallpaper in C:\windows\web\wallpaper ... why keep them all? If you need wallpaper, open MSPaint and make your own? Better yet, dowload something you like to look at, crop and change it to a bmp and voila.

When they made the computer friendly, it was a blessing to millions (and Bill is giving millions back to the millions), but friendly, or is it familiarity, breeds contempt, and it's like a mission; I'm getting rid of all those contemptuous files and folders. I'm keeping a record of everything and so far, it's working fine. Should the system collapse, I'll know what straw it was and it'll be a learning experience.

Interesting that WinXP (which you guys convinced me to get, kudos to all of you) makes it so easy to experiment this way; especialy with using the recycle bin with an easy restore from there, with a hold folder on the desktop to store files/folders while seeing how the system works without them, and with creating "restore points" in system restore (something important in system32), it's another way of having fun. --- Harold

PS: And it's not like I don't use the computer; it gets plenty of use; for naughty, for nice, and for great opportunities to learn all kinds fo things. And regarding that "leaning tower" in Pisa. I understand that engineers have the technology today to straighten it out, but the Pisa people say "no way giuseppe" Americans want to see it lean, how else will we get the tourist trade? We do the same thing here in nyc; the electronic stores in Times Square size up the tourist and then give a price. And the tourist pays for a laptop that will stop working before he gets home..

From: "Support-OrpheusComputing.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Symantec or Norton makes dozens of different products, and most if not all of them have that "Live Update" plugin. Searching your HD is the only way, but (I realize they are in the Recycle Bin) you can't just go and start deleting folders off your HD. They may be needed for something. Also if you delete the folders then try and UNinstall something (related to a deleted folder), it won't uninstall properly if at all.

Why can't you just look in the Symantec folder that was under Program Files and **see** what it is? If it's empty or if you're CERTAIN it was for their AV software, then you have your answer and it can be deleted. You may also have a "Live Update" entry under "Add/Remove Programs" (unless of course you already removed it). - -Clint

----- Original Message ----- I have one Symantec folder in my "Program Files" and two in my "Application Data" folders. I know it has something to do with LiveUpdate, maybe only needed with Norton. I use AVG (free) for those "nasties" ... does this Symantec have any other reason besides Norton for being in my system? I deleted Norton ages ago, and using RegSeeker it doesn't even appear in the Registry. --- Harold
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