i should probably avoid writing emails before bed, and my negative bias towards video-conferencing comes from a number of bad experiences and unproductive meetings. anyhow you are quite right to push this one, to converse without latency can be very productive (but equally unproductive too) - a good meeting requires a fair bit more preparation and planning than just the medium, regardless of mcluhans philosophy. incidentally i have enjoyed his musings in the past but i already find his arguments ambiguous enough with regard to psychology and technology, to retrofit his ideologies to todays baffling techno-communcications wasteland is a bit of a stretch ;)
ciao, dmotd On Tuesday 17 March 2009 21:41:46 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Yeah, in case I came across too strong, I think that IRC is very > useful, and voice chat is too. We can have both running for this > meeting, and people can choose where they participate. IRC is great > for async communications, like asking specific questions. But I find > it takes 10-20x longer to work through difficult issues thru text-only > media like IRC, IM, email, etc. as compared to a voice conversation. > > .hc > > On Mar 16, 2009, at 7:32 PM, João Pais wrote: > > Is this a one time thing, or might happen more times? I would say > > that at least voice connection would be productive. I haven't that > > much experience with video conferencing, but a medium where people > > can react at the same time they can think would be important. > > (although after too much time, even the fingers are faster than some > > heads) > > > > How about voice connection for general talk + an irc chat for small, > > fast questions? We can also send a group foto with skype, so that > > everyone feels the warmth. > > > >> Marshall McLuhan would strongly disagree with you, as do I. The > >> medium with which you communicate has a very strong impact on the > >> conversation. That does not mean that it is the only influence. > >> There are many things that lead to a bad meeting, and from my > >> experience of having many meetings in person, on IRC, on IM, on > >> phones, on voice chat, on video chat, and many different mixes > >> above, I am a strong believer in high-bandwidth communication like > >> voice. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- >- > > Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list