--- On Thu, 7/7/11, Ivica Ico Bukvic <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Ivica Ico Bukvic <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PD] GOP Rendering Issue > To: "Jonathan Wilkes" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Christian Haines" <[email protected]>, [email protected] > Date: Thursday, July 7, 2011, 9:10 PM > On Thu, 2011-07-07 at 09:32 -0700, > Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > I tested the patch from > > http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3030159&group_id=55736&atid=478070 > > with pd-l2ork (Pd version > 0.42.5-extended-l2ork-20110427) > > and every time I clicked the tgl in the parent patch > it put me into > > edit mode. (Doesn't > > do that in pd vanilla). > > > > OK, I just investigated this and the reason the edit mode > is enabled > because I never encountered a need to dynamically change > GOPs this way > and thus treated changes in canvas properties as editing of > a patch > which (as a courtesy) automatically enables editing mode. > The same goes > for editing of any other object's properties. e.g. create a > vslider, > exist the editing mode, right-click on the vslider and > select > properties, and the editing mode will be automatically > enabled. Ok, now that I understand how it works, that's not a bad assumption, IMO. If people want to do dynamic GOP sizing they can just use the "coords" message instead of "donecanvasdialog". (And I checked in Pd-l2ork, and "coords" doesn't change to edit mode, so this should work fine.) > > If you think this should not be the case we are facing a > discrepancy--whereas some editing actions automatically > enable editing > mode, others don't. I think "coords" behavior should stay as it is, and this will be consistent: vsl "size" message = no edit mode change is like: canvas "coords" message = no edit mode change and: bringing up vsl dialog = edit mode is like: bringing up subpatch/canvas dialog = edit mode So even though the user can technically send a "donecanvasdialog" message, in doing so they are simulating whatever happens when you close the canvas dialog box (and getting whatever behavior becomes associated with that). In other words, there's no good reason for a user to send "donecanvasdialog" manually (right?). -Jonathan > So, we need to figure out if we're > going to be > consistent one way or the other. Hans mentioned something > about a > performance mode in the latest pd-extended. Perhaps that > would mean that > the courtesy auto-editing would be then supplanted with > strict editing > mode which when disabled would grey-out (disable) all > options that are > associated with editing. > > Best wishes, > > Ico > > _______________________________________________ [email protected] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
