>________________________________ >From: Olivier B <lamouraupeu...@gmail.com> >To: i go bananas <hard....@gmail.com> >Cc: PD-List <pd-list@iem.at> >Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 8:01 AM >Subject: Re: [PD] expr alternative > > >Hi list... > >Just to say that, even if my patchs are published under GPL, as I definitely >need my lines to be straight (or not aliased), I would prefer [expr] to be >under BSD, like Pd-Vanilla is...
What does the license have to do with straight lines and aliasing? -Jonathan > >Cheers... > >01ivier > > > > > > >2011/10/31 i go bananas <hard....@gmail.com> > >that's what i have just asked about. >> >>if you read back about halfway up the thread, max posted a mail saying that >>IRCAM are willing to change the license to LGPL. >> >>so i'm now wondering, that of course it is a hassle to contact all the >>original authors, but if none of them have moral views against BSD, then >>maybe that would be an easier course of action that code rewrite. >> >> >> >> >> >>On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancs...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>Wouldn't you need to get permission from Ircam, too? >>> >>> >>>They are listed as a copyrightholder, for example, in vexp.c. >>> >>> >>>There is also the following list of authors: >>>* Authors: Maurizio De Cecco, Francois Dechelle, Enzo Maggi, Norbert Schnell. >>> >>> >>>-Jonathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>________________________________ >>>>From: i go bananas <hard....@gmail.com> >>>>To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> >>>>Cc: PD-List <pd-list@iem.at>; Georg Bosch <k...@stillavailable.com> >>>>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 11:04 AM >>>> >>>>Subject: Re: [PD] expr alternative >>>> >>>> >>>>i just got a reply and they are reviewing my question, so hopefully we can >>>>find out if they currently allow LGPL. >>>> >>>>however, even if the do, i PERSONALLY still think a BSD [expr] would be >>>>much better. >>>> >>>>i know there were a lot of heated comments in this thread defending GPL, >>>>but if the author of the object would prefer to go with BSD, and if all >>>>that keeps him from doing the work is a little time and motivation, well, i >>>>can't really give him any time, but i can maybe help with motivation. >>>> >>>>Am i on my own if i try to do that? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <h...@at.or.at> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Another side of it is that the GPL and LGPL do not allow additional >>>>>restrictions to be placed on the code. The VLC and GNU Go complaints as I >>>>>understood them were specifically about the Apple App Store placing >>>>>additional restrictions on the code. So that would affect LGPL and GPL >>>>>alike. An app that includes some LGPL code might be a grey area since >>>>>there is no possible expectation of producing a binary exactly like the >>>>>original, since not all the code's licenses require that, so distributing >>>>>the LGPL part separate might be enough. >>>>> >>>>>With the GPL, the whole app needs to be GPL compatible, so therefore there >>>>>is an easy test: every user must be able to freely recreate the binary, >>>>>and freely install, run, and modify it. That's something that the Apple >>>>>App Store definitely restricts. >>>>> >>>>>I don't think this will really be resolved until Apple drops those terms >>>>>or the FSF makes a statement on the LGPL in the Apple App Store. >>>>> >>>>>.hc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Oct 31, 2011, at 10:49 AM, i go bananas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> i just called a couple of apple numbers. first one had me on hold for >>>>>> 10 minutes so i gave up, 2nd one was useless. >>>>>> >>>>>> BUT third one was a rather helpful lady whose name i now have and she >>>>>> has issued me a 'case number' so my question is now listed in their >>>>>> system at least, so hopefully i can get the 'yay or nay' from apple on >>>>>> LGPL code in iOS applications. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also, i have already contacted a friend who works for a company making >>>>>> high profile iOS applications, and from what he is saying LGPL is OK. >>>>>> it seems the main problem with plain GPL is that apple doesn't want to >>>>>> release their own surrounding code, which the GPL would force them to do. >>>>>> As far as i can see, LGPL doesn't have this strict requirement. You >>>>>> just need to make the LGPL part available to anyone who wants it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Will keep hammering away here. LGPL sounds like it might be a better >>>>>> option, but i still reckon if Mr Yadegari is in favour of BSD, then that >>>>>> would be the best outcome. >>>>>> Personally i'd be happy to donate a couple of hundred dollars even to >>>>>> see a unified license for PD, but as this thread has shown, it sounds >>>>>> like i may get hippies camping on my lawn waving their GPL flags and >>>>>> trying to bum my goldfish. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just casually browsing through a bunch of PD patches this afternoon >>>>>> though, [expr] and especially [expr~] are undeniably useful and show up >>>>>> in so many patches. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>>You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear >>>>>it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > >-- >Envie de tisser ? >http://yamatierea.org/papatchs/ > > >_______________________________________________ >Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
