On 23 Feb 2014, at 20:29, Jonathan Wilkes <[email protected]> wrote:

>> 
>> Things maybe acceptable to us PD "grey beards", but at some point it would 
>> be nice to find a way to enter the modern, multicore multithreaded world. 
>> Moores law has shifted from clock speed to "just add more cores" years ago 
>> now, so it's not like "buy a faster machine" is going to magically solve 
>> single threaded speed issues.
> 
> It's not acceptable, but if you want to move forward _and_ do work that will 
> be in sync with or accepted into Pd vanilla I don't see a way forward.  I 
> can't even get help docs into Pd vanilla, and they were written to the PDDP 
> spec that this community came up with and approved.  And as you know, there's 
> a publicly viewable list of the same exact frustrations from all kinds of 
> developers with various styles of communication.
> 

Indeed. This reminds of discussions on the pd dev list, some 7 years ago (!), 
which ultimately resulted in the Vibrez project a closed fork of Pd-devel, 
which added (among other things) basic multi-threading and a revamped GUI.

        http://grrrr.org/research/software/vibrez/

        http://grrrr.org/pub/grill-2007-pdcon-vibrez.pdf

IMHO, the introduction to that paper makes for sobering reading for anyone 
considering spending any significant effort on core Pd development. 

Jamie
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