On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Dan Wilcox <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I consider that a sad thing. At least with Pd-extended, it was largely > Pd-vanilla + externals. > I don't think it needs to be sad. Yes, pd-extended is pd-vanilla + externals + most limitations of the vanilla. How does that help you in your mission to move forward? > > That said, I would love to entertain the thought of co-developing libpd > but I think that is currently bogged down by the same predicaments that > pd-extended and any other non-vanilla implementations have to deal with, > which is whether you keep the backwards compatibility or move forward as > fast as you can at the expense of the compatibility. > > > Which is why I bring up the idea that we find some firmer ground in the > bog and reach a compromise instead of forking galore. If fragmentation is a > good thing, then there really isn't much of a community, simply a few > islands rehashing the same things on a roughly a 5 year cycle. I'm sure > you'll keep PD-L2ork going and it won't go the way of DD, but again there > should be a way to have our cake and eat it too. I don't see the harm in > trying. > > Also, I'd like to point that, "bogged down" or not, libpd has IMO sparked > the most life into Pure Data over the last few years by bringing lots of > new people in who want to patch for phones and apps embedding libpd. Alot > of those people are Max users ... :D I personally don't like the idea of us > working on libpd when you take off with Pd-L20rk and we might reach a point > where we'd want a libpd-L2ork. Would be nice to have both ... > A lot of things would be nice but that is not the reality of the current situation. I think backwards compatibility is even less relevant to libpd when it is embedded in ways that are completely transparent to users, but I guess I digress, so I'll shut up. > If the reality is as you say, then I'm not really interested in spending > my time hacking on our little island. > And the only thing I can say at this point is that I respect that and to thank you for your genuine effort at moving the community forward.
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