On Sun, 18 Feb 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I like this! Let's try to do it, okay? "OT" for messages that deal with
> > other aspects of photography or photographic equipment than Pentax, and
> > "OL" for messages that have nothing to do with photography at all. That
> > seems preferable to banning or censoring the messages, especially since
> > some of them can be quite interesting. :)
>
> I honestly have to say that I disagree, Chris.
That's ok... it happens to everyone at some point. :)
> OT labels are certainly
> appropriate for OT posts. However, for truly "off list" messages (regardless
> of their quality in the realms of politics, philosophy, religion, or society)
> , what is appropriate is that they ~not~ be posted at all to the PDML. There
> are many, many other forums for non-photography thoughts to be expressed,
> right?
I agree with you on all counts there, Fred. OL messages should definitely
not be posted to the PDML. However, unless someone is willing to step in
and say "Don't post any more messages to this topic on the list," we'll
still have this problem. And even that might not be enough; we probably
need a moderator to ensure that no OL message ever makes it through. What
I'm trying to do is recognize that there will be OL messages posted, and
to suggest a labelling system that will at least allow the rest of us to
recognize them and delete them if we prefer. Right now, the problem with
the OT label is that both OT and OL messages are getting labelled as OT,
which means that we have to keep reading the OL posts for fear of missing
the good OT ones. If people could add "OL" to their subject line for OL
messages, then we could still read the photography-related OT posts
without haveing to suffer through the OL ones (except for the digest
folks, of course, who suffer either way).
Now the question becomes, "If the people who post OL messages are doing so
even after knowing that they shouldn't, are they really going to take the
time to add "OL" to the subject line?" Honestly, I don't know. I even
suspect that they won't, at first. The only redeeming thing about the OL
header is that I, personally, would feel much more comfortable about
criticizing someone for not labelling a post as OL than I would about
criticizing them for sending that post in the first place. I imagine that
there have been times when most of us have posted, or wanted to post, OL
messages to the list. Maybe something about what's happening in our
personal lives, maybe something that's totally unrelated to photography
but that the list might be able to help us out with, etc. Legitimate OL
posts do exist, IMO, and I don't think that it would necessarily be a bad
idea to have an OL label. Any thoughts on this?
chris
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