militia has changed in a couple hundred years, it used to mean every able bodied male
over the age of 16 and still active enough to climb out of bed, i. e. every citizen,(or
potential citizen since women weren't full citizens).
The requirements for being a citizen has changed too.
At 06:00 PM 12/6/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Isn't the right to keep and bear arms expressed to be in accordance with a well-ordered militia? i guesss it's the interpretation of that clause that makes people stumble. http://www.uchastings.edu/clq/maltradf.html-----Original Message----- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 6-Dec-02 16:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Blakely Subject: Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS. Bob, Ammendment II of the US Constitution looks pretty clear. Isn't that the ultimate law of the land in your country? William Robb > > They're coming for us too. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that > our Constitution does not grant an individual right to own/bear arms, the > Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that it does. Currently, US > Constitutional law is different in different sections of our country. The > Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals (San Francisco) enjoys the dubious honor of > being the most reversed court in US history. It would be a damned shame if > because of a few thousand (mostly gang bangers), politicians riding a wave > of media generated fear were successful in removing an enjoyable sport and > means of self defense from over 80 million folks and their progeny forever - > and succeed in subverting the law of the land in the process. Americans have > no innate aptitude for risk assessment. Apparently we are not alone. > > Regards, > Bob.... > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!" > - Benjamin Franklin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:27 PM > Subject: Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Shaun Canning > > Subject: Way OT: RE:My first Ebay!!! > > > > The whole gun thing took of here about 12 or so years ago when > > some moron whacked a bunch of women at a technical school in > > Montreal. Of course right away the wymmans movement started > > shaking the issue like a pack of rabid Jack Russel Terriers and > > the feds, in an effort to appear to be doing something useful > > decided it could be useful to register guns, confiscate guns, > > etc. > > The theory is that a disarmed populace is at the mercy of the > > authorities, making it all that much easier to form a > > dictatorship. > > Which is pretty much what Cretin has done. > > > > The real joke, of course is that the whole gun registry process > > was supposed to cost taxpayers a couple of million dollars. > > So far, it has cost almost a billion (800 million was the last > > number I heard), and we have more firearm related crimes now > > than 15 years ago. > > > > > > William Robb > > > > > > > > > register them...our governement took them away from us. We had > > to > > > register our guns 15 years ago. Now I see it as the first step > > in the > > > process of taking all our guns away. > > > > > > It is almost impossible to get a shooters licence in Australia > > these > > > days. Well not impossible, but bloody hard. Unless you own a > > farm, have > > > access to a farm, or are a member of a gun club, forget it. I > > come from > > > the land, but don't really have access to a large enough farm > > to shoot > > > on anymore. > > > > > > We are not allowed to own anything semi-automatic, which means > > I lost a > > > really nice A5 Browning. Not happy.... > > > > > > Friends lost all sorts of things...dozens of rifles and > > shotguns. All > > > because of the nutter at Port Arthur in Tasmania. > > > > > > Sporting shooters lost the right to own a variety of guns > > because of > > > criminals. The stupid part is, now the law abiding citizens > > cannot enjoy > > > their sport anymore, but there are more firearms related > > offences than > > > there was before the bans took place. > > > > > > It was almost worth losing our weapons to see out idiot Prime > > Minister > > > turn up to a SSAA (Sportin Shooters Assoc Aust)meeting with a > > flak > > > jacket under his sports coat. The SSAA people were offended > > naturally > > > enough, the rest of us thought it was hilarious. No one in > > their right > > > mind would waste a bullet on the inept little prick... > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Shaun > > > > > > William Robb wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: David Brooks > > > > Subject: Re: Re: My first Ebay!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Frank. > > > >>I'll apologize for being part of the latest $1 Billion > > > >>dollar Government Boondogle. > > > >>Sorry<g> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave, tell me you didn't register your guns. > > > > > > > > William Robb > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ++++++++ > > > Shaun Canning > > > Cultural Heritage Services > > > High Street, Broadford, > > > Victoria, 3658. > > > > > > www.heritageservices.com.au/ > > > > > > Phone: 0414-967644 > > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > My images can be seen at > > www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=238096 > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ++++++++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
