Isn't the right to keep and bear arms expressed to be in accordance with a
well-ordered militia?  i guesss it's the interpretation of that clause that
makes people stumble.
http://www.uchastings.edu/clq/maltradf.html

-----Original Message-----
From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 6-Dec-02 16:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.



----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Blakely
Subject: Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.


Bob, Ammendment II of the US Constitution looks pretty clear.
Isn't that the ultimate law of the land in your country?

William Robb

>
> They're coming for us too. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals
has ruled that
> our Constitution does not grant an individual right to
own/bear arms, the
> Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that it does.
Currently, US
> Constitutional law is different in different sections of our
country. The
> Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals (San Francisco) enjoys the
dubious honor of
> being the most reversed court in US history. It would be a
damned shame if
> because of a few thousand (mostly gang bangers), politicians
riding a wave
> of media generated fear were successful in removing an
enjoyable sport and
> means of self defense from over 80 million folks and their
progeny forever -
> and succeed in subverting the law of the land in the process.
Americans have
> no innate aptitude for risk assessment. Apparently we are not
alone.
>
> Regards,
> Bob....
> --------------------------------------------------------------
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> "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!"
>    - Benjamin Franklin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:27 PM
> Subject: Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS.
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Shaun Canning
> > Subject: Way OT: RE:My first Ebay!!!
> >
> > The whole gun thing took of here about 12 or so years ago
when
> > some moron whacked a bunch of women at a technical school in
> > Montreal. Of course right away the wymmans movement started
> > shaking the issue like a pack of rabid Jack Russel Terriers
and
> > the feds, in an effort to appear to be doing something
useful
> > decided it could be useful to register guns, confiscate
guns,
> > etc.
> > The theory is that a disarmed populace is at the mercy of
the
> > authorities, making it all that much easier to form a
> > dictatorship.
> > Which is pretty much what Cretin has done.
> >
> > The real joke, of course is that the whole gun registry
process
> > was supposed to cost taxpayers a couple of million dollars.
> > So far, it has cost almost a billion (800 million was the
last
> > number I heard), and we have more firearm related crimes now
> > than 15 years ago.
> >
> >
> > William Robb
> >
> >
> >
> > > register them...our governement took them away from us. We
had
> > to
> > > register our guns 15 years ago. Now I see it as the first
step
> > in the
> > > process of taking all our guns away.
> > >
> > > It is almost impossible to get a shooters licence in
Australia
> > these
> > > days. Well not impossible, but bloody hard. Unless you own
a
> > farm, have
> > > access to a farm, or are a member of a gun club, forget
it. I
> > come from
> > > the land, but don't really have access to a large enough
farm
> > to shoot
> > > on anymore.
> > >
> > > We are not allowed to own anything semi-automatic, which
means
> > I lost a
> > > really nice A5 Browning. Not happy....
> > >
> > > Friends lost all sorts of things...dozens of rifles and
> > shotguns. All
> > > because of the nutter at Port Arthur in Tasmania.
> > >
> > > Sporting shooters lost the right to own a variety of guns
> > because of
> > > criminals. The stupid part is, now the law abiding
citizens
> > cannot enjoy
> > > their sport anymore, but there are more firearms related
> > offences than
> > > there was before the bans took place.
> > >
> > > It was almost worth losing our weapons to see out idiot
Prime
> > Minister
> > > turn up to a SSAA (Sportin Shooters Assoc Aust)meeting
with a
> > flak
> > > jacket under his sports coat. The SSAA people were
offended
> > naturally
> > > enough, the rest of us thought it was hilarious. No one in
> > their right
> > > mind would waste a bullet on the inept little prick...
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Shaun
> > >
> > > William Robb wrote:
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: David Brooks
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: My first Ebay!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Frank.
> > > >>I'll apologize for being part of the latest $1 Billion
> > > >>dollar Government Boondogle.
> > > >>Sorry<g>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dave, tell me you didn't register your guns.
> > > >
> > > > William Robb
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
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> > ++++++++
> > > Shaun Canning
> > > Cultural Heritage Services
> > > High Street, Broadford,
> > > Victoria, 3658.
> > >
> > > www.heritageservices.com.au/
> > >
> > > Phone: 0414-967644
> > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > My images can be seen at
> > www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=238096
> > >
> >
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> > ++++++++
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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