Isn't the right to keep and bear arms expressed to be in accordance with a well-ordered militia? i guesss it's the interpretation of that clause that makes people stumble. http://www.uchastings.edu/clq/maltradf.html
-----Original Message----- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 6-Dec-02 16:38 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Blakely Subject: Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS. Bob, Ammendment II of the US Constitution looks pretty clear. Isn't that the ultimate law of the land in your country? William Robb > > They're coming for us too. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that > our Constitution does not grant an individual right to own/bear arms, the > Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that it does. Currently, US > Constitutional law is different in different sections of our country. The > Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals (San Francisco) enjoys the dubious honor of > being the most reversed court in US history. It would be a damned shame if > because of a few thousand (mostly gang bangers), politicians riding a wave > of media generated fear were successful in removing an enjoyable sport and > means of self defense from over 80 million folks and their progeny forever - > and succeed in subverting the law of the land in the process. Americans have > no innate aptitude for risk assessment. Apparently we are not alone. > > Regards, > Bob.... > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!" > - Benjamin Franklin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:27 PM > Subject: Re: Way OT: GUNS, GUNS, AND MORE GUNS. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Shaun Canning > > Subject: Way OT: RE:My first Ebay!!! > > > > The whole gun thing took of here about 12 or so years ago when > > some moron whacked a bunch of women at a technical school in > > Montreal. Of course right away the wymmans movement started > > shaking the issue like a pack of rabid Jack Russel Terriers and > > the feds, in an effort to appear to be doing something useful > > decided it could be useful to register guns, confiscate guns, > > etc. > > The theory is that a disarmed populace is at the mercy of the > > authorities, making it all that much easier to form a > > dictatorship. > > Which is pretty much what Cretin has done. > > > > The real joke, of course is that the whole gun registry process > > was supposed to cost taxpayers a couple of million dollars. > > So far, it has cost almost a billion (800 million was the last > > number I heard), and we have more firearm related crimes now > > than 15 years ago. > > > > > > William Robb > > > > > > > > > register them...our governement took them away from us. We had > > to > > > register our guns 15 years ago. Now I see it as the first step > > in the > > > process of taking all our guns away. > > > > > > It is almost impossible to get a shooters licence in Australia > > these > > > days. Well not impossible, but bloody hard. Unless you own a > > farm, have > > > access to a farm, or are a member of a gun club, forget it. I > > come from > > > the land, but don't really have access to a large enough farm > > to shoot > > > on anymore. > > > > > > We are not allowed to own anything semi-automatic, which means > > I lost a > > > really nice A5 Browning. Not happy.... > > > > > > Friends lost all sorts of things...dozens of rifles and > > shotguns. All > > > because of the nutter at Port Arthur in Tasmania. > > > > > > Sporting shooters lost the right to own a variety of guns > > because of > > > criminals. The stupid part is, now the law abiding citizens > > cannot enjoy > > > their sport anymore, but there are more firearms related > > offences than > > > there was before the bans took place. > > > > > > It was almost worth losing our weapons to see out idiot Prime > > Minister > > > turn up to a SSAA (Sportin Shooters Assoc Aust)meeting with a > > flak > > > jacket under his sports coat. The SSAA people were offended > > naturally > > > enough, the rest of us thought it was hilarious. No one in > > their right > > > mind would waste a bullet on the inept little prick... > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Shaun > > > > > > William Robb wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: David Brooks > > > > Subject: Re: Re: My first Ebay!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Frank. > > > >>I'll apologize for being part of the latest $1 Billion > > > >>dollar Government Boondogle. > > > >>Sorry<g> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave, tell me you didn't register your guns. > > > > > > > > William Robb > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ++++++++ > > > Shaun Canning > > > Cultural Heritage Services > > > High Street, Broadford, > > > Victoria, 3658. > > > > > > www.heritageservices.com.au/ > > > > > > Phone: 0414-967644 > > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > My images can be seen at > > www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=238096 > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ++++++++ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

